Valley Forge hunt cancelled
12-27-2009, 05:00 PM
#21
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SW PA USA
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12-27-2009, 05:03 PM
#22
Giant Nontypical
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Location: PA
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Last edited by bawanajim; 12-27-2009 at 05:14 PM.
12-27-2009, 05:11 PM
#23
Nontypical Buck
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12-27-2009, 05:33 PM
#24
Giant Nontypical
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Location: SW PA USA
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Well, it's also not well know that SB originally lived near VF until he heard that BB had declared the MSY of VF to be 200+ prompting him to cross over to the dark side breifly in search of DD for some intense study on OWDD, RR's GIGO fromulas and general DILLIGAF nonexpertise.
12-27-2009, 06:21 PM
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PA
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I wonder why the deer at VF survived all these years.Especially considering there's some brute bucks in there.You would think the habitat was depleted resulting in malnutrition which would not create bruiser bucks.
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12-27-2009, 06:45 PM
#27
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SW PA USA
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All deer biologists cite age as the most important of the 3 components required for a "bruiser buck". The other two are, of course, nutrition and genetics.
A fair guess might be that some of those bruisers are old enough to have grown up when the density wasn't so high.
I know that we had a similar scenario when I became part of a suburban bowhunt several years ago. We started with a DD of 100 DPSM (counted via FLIR) but that included roads, buildings, playgrounds and parking lots. The true DPSM was more like 160 when we started. There had not been any legal hunting there for decades. Yes there were some old grizzled monsters but they were few and far between. The rule, however was far more smallish junky scrub bucks. There were also a few ridiculously large does and lots and lots of tiny deer.
As for how they survive, I don't know that park so I'll talk about the situation I was (still am) involved in. The deer ate everything green and most things brown that they could reach. They had lost all fear of humans and would eat flowers right under peoples windows in broad daylight. Planting anything was pretty much a lost cause.
BTW, we probably each averaged 2-3 "easy" ones way back when we started before those deer caught on and became smarter and warier than any deer I ever hunted in the big woods.
12-27-2009, 11:23 PM
#30
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 86
RSB seems to be on a major loosing streak here lately.
Last edited by yano; 12-28-2009 at 02:30 AM.