Do bobcats kill deer? Here is the answer.
10-11-2009, 03:17 AM
#61
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 12,689
4evrhtn, yotes and bobcats only acount for a small % of fawn mortality due to predidation in PA., Black Bears aacount for the majority of fawns killed.
Also it isnt possible to put a dent in a yote population thru legal hunting methods because the more that you kill the more pups will be born. Pike
Also it isnt possible to put a dent in a yote population thru legal hunting methods because the more that you kill the more pups will be born. Pike
10-21-2009, 10:27 AM
#63
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ocean County NJ USA
Posts: 100
Land Between the Lakes Yotes
While hunting in the TVA in KY we had mor than 7 yotes running circles around us in the dark. We were trying to find a hit turkey with a bow. We found it partly chewed up and as we carried it out they followed us for several hundred yards running circles around us. Kind of creepy.
10-22-2009, 04:58 AM
#65
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 12,689
Coyotes are not nature at it's best by no means.. Coyotes are killing machines that have distroyed the deer populations up here and are not natural to these parts.. Some have so called escaped pens up this way and have also crossed bred with the eastern timber wolves. A wolve will kill a deer and eat it all.. A coyote will kill deer and keep on killing them whether or not they have aten it all. There is no good coyote IMO....
10-22-2009, 07:00 AM
#66
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: York, PA.
Posts: 1,313
I can't speak for PA, but come to Maine and see the distruction they can do to a healthy deer herd.. I have no place for them right now and if you enjoy them so much be prepared. The way I see it it will not belong now and parts of this state will be off limit to hunting.. If it happens in your area where the heck would you be??
And for the first 2 years I checked every pile of coyote scat that I came across and during that time I found very little deer hair in it, 90+% of it was rabbit hair (we also have a million rabbits)
I was puzzeled about why Yotes were so hard on the deer herd in NH. & ME. but did very little damage to the herd in my area of OH.,
Then I remembered why, In NH. & ME. you/they have much longer and harsher winters and can have 2-3 of snow into April and even May and the yotes just run on top of the snow without much effort meanwhile the deer they are chasing have to run thru it and tire out very quickly making them easy prey for the yotes but in SE. OH. we get very little snow and the snow we get doesnt last long making it very tough for a single, pair and yes even a pack of yotes to bring dow a healthy deer. But with that said, I wouldnt leave a deer out over night because based on how long our gut piles last there wouldnt be much of a deer left to eat. Pike
Last edited by J Pike; 10-22-2009 at 07:09 AM.
10-22-2009, 03:09 PM
#67
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
we hunt the yotes in feb here in clinton county,pa.we got 11 this winter.our success has gone up because of ole SPROULS hunting techinque.
i use ladder stand on the high edge of pipeline.this way yotes cant wind me.i use shotgun 12 ga with 4 shot with extended full choke.......
place my electronic call out on pipeline edge.it works better than anything i tried before.only reason it was not 22 yotes is because i was little sick and my cousins only hunted about 7 times with me.i have a double ladder stand.we both sit in same stand, i bet that looks funny if someone ever sees us
sitting together makes time go by faster and is not boring.also 2 sets of eyes and extra sandwich.
usually we only get about 3 yotes in one area,then it gets slow.i hate moving the stand but with help ,its not too bad.
i use ladder stand on the high edge of pipeline.this way yotes cant wind me.i use shotgun 12 ga with 4 shot with extended full choke.......
place my electronic call out on pipeline edge.it works better than anything i tried before.only reason it was not 22 yotes is because i was little sick and my cousins only hunted about 7 times with me.i have a double ladder stand.we both sit in same stand, i bet that looks funny if someone ever sees us
sitting together makes time go by faster and is not boring.also 2 sets of eyes and extra sandwich.usually we only get about 3 yotes in one area,then it gets slow.i hate moving the stand but with help ,its not too bad.
10-22-2009, 08:14 PM
#68
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,236
Every single yote that appears before me has an attempt made on it's life. No exceptions. Bobcats need a permit to be taken in PA. I don't bother with them. If they are ever permitted to be taken arbitrarily then I surely would. I am the top predator and make no apologies for it.
10-23-2009, 08:58 AM
#69
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: 2G Gaines Pa
Posts: 524
I find deer hair in coyote scat every month of the year. And this is far from any roadkills they could be getting at. They take deer down no doubt about it. Years ago, in the 60s and 70s, the PGC always had concerns about dogs hamstringing deer very often. If a dog or two can take a deer down, so can coyotes. Kill 'em all!
10-23-2009, 11:20 AM
#70
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,262
I find deer hair in many piles of coyote scat as well.However,I've only ever found two deer that I'm sure were actually killed by coyotes.They no doubt kill adult deer I just don't know how much an effect they have.On a few occassions I've seen coyotes enter a field that deer were in and the deer didn't even pay them much attention unless they had fawns.If a pack of beagles can ran down a deer,a couple coyotes certainly can.I just don'y know how often they do.I don't if anbody truly does.