bluebird2

Please posts the predictions you made about the current deer management plan that have been proven to be correct based on PGC data. Unless you can do that you are nothing more than an armchair biologists with theories and opinions that are unsupported by the facts.

R.S.B.

That is easy.

I have been both predicting and telling people for decades that unless hunters were willing to harvest more deer the habitat would reach a point where it couldn’t support many deer and the deer populations would crash over much of the state.

Isn’t that present lack of deer exactly what you and many others are now yammering about?

I have also predicted that unless hunters allow more deer being harvested in the areas of the state with high deer numbers in recent years that their deer numbers would also start a downward spiral. According to your buddy Cornelious that is already happing in his area where the deer populations have typically been among the highest in the state.

R.S. Bodenhorn

bluebird2

Thanks for adding two more to your long list of failed predictions. The population crashed because the antlerless allocations and the concurrent seasons produced harvests that significantly exceeded recruitment and not because the her exceeded the MSY carrying capacity of the habitat. Not one of our WMUs was above the MSY CC as proved by the fact that breeding rates and productivity decreased as the herd was reduced.
If harvests hadn't exceeded recruitment in areas like 2A and 5C the herd would still be increasing since the MSY carrying capacity of mixed farm land and wood lots is over 80 DPSM as proven by the extremely high DD at Gettysburg and Valley Forge.

You are now zero for twelve with you predictions !!! That's an amazing record.

Cornelius08

"Please posts the predictions you made about the current deer management plan that have been proven to be correct based on PGC data."

LMAO, If Rsb were to post all the predictions which hes made and that have come true since 2001, that Ive seen on various message boards, he'd be finished before I hit the period key at the end of this sentence. lol

N-o-n-e!

Cornelius08

No rsb, that hadnt happened here until the allocation became "some of the highest in the state" and continues to be so.

Doesnt take much more than an idiot, or something slightly above a pgc biologist to realize that when 45,000 tags reduces your herd it doesnt take 55,000 or 60,000 just to stabilize it from there on out. lmfao.

Cornelius08

An excerpt from Rsbs "proof of nothing" lmao!!

"Adoption of this conceptual framework will require research that provides managers with better tools than are currently available to assess the carrying capacity of specific landscapes. Better understanding of the effective scale at which deer interact with habitats is needed, such as research underway at Huntington Forest (Matthews 1996). We also need straight forward ways to estimate the K carrying capacity of these habitats. Similarly, more effective tools for the estimation of deer density itself are also required(Healy et al. 1997). In particular, research should be designed to test systems in which K changes (or is changed by human uses, such as agricultural) on short time scales (B. P. Shissler, Nat. Resour. Consultants, Inc., Fort Hill, Pa., pers. commun.). "

BTW, for anyone not knowing....That "B.P. Shissler" is the one, the only Bryon Shissler of Audubon fame, consultant for dcnr, and somehow was permitted to take part as a member of the pgc deer team that structured our deer program! LMAO!! This is the same clown who recently spoke out and was "hyped" by the pgc damage control machine as "past CRITIC" LMFAO, of the pgc, who has found through his independent studies that pgc is the best management system in the nation! Hunters should abide by this mans word, since he is so unbiased so truthful and clearly has we hunters in mind with his assessments. LMFAO....mans suspected as a 100% ANTI-hunter...

Rsb are you for real?? You say hunters should take their money and take a flying leap, then you post BULLCHIT from Shissler as some kind of "proof" of anything?? WTF?? You some Peta crusader or something????

bowtruck

last 3 post prove we have lost sight

Cornelius08

And ALL of your posts prove YOU have lost sight of both the truth and reality, judging from you profile, at least since 3/16/08

bowtruck

And you prove once again your a chump and not worth responding 2 Oh LOL[8D]

Cornelius08

Yet you still cannot seem to help yourself from throwing limp wristed jabs. Lack of willpower. No backbone I guess. [:'(]

Btw, did you ever find "mediocre" in the dictionary yet? lmao.