PA DEER MANAGEMENT SEARCH ON YAHOO.
06-22-2009, 02:53 PM
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PA DEER MANAGEMENT SEARCH ON YAHOO.
Was just thinking about looking through some things about pa deer management, maybe to get a few laughs, or see if anything new has been posted etc...
Typing in the keywords "PA DEER MANAGEMENT" on google can only leave one shaking their head and snickering. Cant help but laugh. I type in other states Plus deer management as keywords regularly and get lots of interesting links etc....
There is much discussion about the low level of hunter satisfaction here and has been for years on many other Pa message boards, so it probably comes as no surprise to most.
First page search results.
1. Link titled "DIRTY LITTLE SECRET BEHIND PA DEER MANAGEMENT". From some womens sportsmen group who apparently think the deer plan is attrocious and a sham and point to audubon societies very inappropriate lead role in it.
2. DCNR complaining about deer as always.
3. The 2005 AUDUBON SOCIETY DEER REPORT/ANTIDEER report. SOme of the biggest contributors to our deer program, and its no wonder its "nonhunter" friendly.
4. Robert Fryes "DEER WARS" book about Pas failed (my assessment) deer plan and hunter outrage. Little hint; its not titled "deer wars" because everyone loves the game commission deer plan. lol
5. Pa game commission site.
6. Pa deer.net giving their pgc supporting position statement on hunter discontent with deer program. "the deer management program has been underfire by numerous sportsmen throughout the state."
7.Ex-pgc deer teamsman/dcnr consultant and audubon nut Shissler giving his evalutation/damage control because of all the dissent and pgc not getting their fee increase.
8. QDMA.
9. Shissler again.
And that all folks. Quite a line-up eh? Someone wanting to learn about pa deer management learns quickly that all is not hunky-dory in the keystone state. [:'(]
Link to search results; LINK
Typing in the keywords "PA DEER MANAGEMENT" on google can only leave one shaking their head and snickering. Cant help but laugh. I type in other states Plus deer management as keywords regularly and get lots of interesting links etc....
There is much discussion about the low level of hunter satisfaction here and has been for years on many other Pa message boards, so it probably comes as no surprise to most.
First page search results.
1. Link titled "DIRTY LITTLE SECRET BEHIND PA DEER MANAGEMENT". From some womens sportsmen group who apparently think the deer plan is attrocious and a sham and point to audubon societies very inappropriate lead role in it.
2. DCNR complaining about deer as always.
3. The 2005 AUDUBON SOCIETY DEER REPORT/ANTIDEER report. SOme of the biggest contributors to our deer program, and its no wonder its "nonhunter" friendly.
4. Robert Fryes "DEER WARS" book about Pas failed (my assessment) deer plan and hunter outrage. Little hint; its not titled "deer wars" because everyone loves the game commission deer plan. lol
5. Pa game commission site.
6. Pa deer.net giving their pgc supporting position statement on hunter discontent with deer program. "the deer management program has been underfire by numerous sportsmen throughout the state."
7.Ex-pgc deer teamsman/dcnr consultant and audubon nut Shissler giving his evalutation/damage control because of all the dissent and pgc not getting their fee increase.
8. QDMA.
9. Shissler again.
And that all folks. Quite a line-up eh? Someone wanting to learn about pa deer management learns quickly that all is not hunky-dory in the keystone state. [:'(]
Link to search results; LINK
06-22-2009, 03:05 PM
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RE: PA DEER MANAGEMENT SEARCH ON YAHOO.
Great Cornholio
Maybe if you spent more time scouting this time of year and knocking on doors instead of pissing and moaning about PA deer management on the internet you would have better than "poor" deer hunting in 2A. A WMU where 20 deer were harvested last year for every square mile of forest.
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Maybe if you spent more time scouting this time of year and knocking on doors instead of pissing and moaning about PA deer management on the internet you would have better than "poor" deer hunting in 2A. A WMU where 20 deer were harvested last year for every square mile of forest.
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06-22-2009, 03:19 PM
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obviously you never read the Deer Wars Book. I suggest you read the book before jumping to conclusions on what it's about. It covers a wide variety of issues. It isn't just about people who hate the deer policy in PA.
06-22-2009, 03:21 PM
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My success rate is just fine thanks for the concern Gino. Ive also been out quite a bit lately again, thanks for the tipIf my success rate ever suffers and Im looking for suggestions from an antideer flower sniffer, you will be the first person I consult..[:'(]
I could scout 24/7 365 days of the year, and the hunting overall in the wmu (or any other) wouldnt be rated any higher. And that is according to MY standards which takes much into account. Including but not limited to comparing to previous, comparing to other states Ive hunted, and comparing to what should be expected from a hunting area and deer management program.
"A WMU where 20 deer were harvested last year for every square mile of forest"
With a huge amount of the wmu being nonforested, yet some of the best deer habitat type to be found anywhere. Edge habitat, reverting cropland, croplands, pasture, blackberry greenbriar etc. thickets galore. etc. Not very impressive. Might sound as such with very creative statements such as yours. Until you look at the fact we fell from around 2nd in buck harvest to around the middle of the pack. And we now harvest as many buck in a several county area as we once did in ONE. Lmao. Kinda knocks some of the spunk out of your deception tactics doesnt it? LOL
Your futile attempt to discredit with your addition of nothingness to the thread was kinda "creative". But the post I made had nothing to do with my wmu or my satisfaction. It is what it is. SPeaks to the pizz poor situation our state is in currently, and it speaks for itself.
I could scout 24/7 365 days of the year, and the hunting overall in the wmu (or any other) wouldnt be rated any higher. And that is according to MY standards which takes much into account. Including but not limited to comparing to previous, comparing to other states Ive hunted, and comparing to what should be expected from a hunting area and deer management program.
"A WMU where 20 deer were harvested last year for every square mile of forest"
With a huge amount of the wmu being nonforested, yet some of the best deer habitat type to be found anywhere. Edge habitat, reverting cropland, croplands, pasture, blackberry greenbriar etc. thickets galore. etc. Not very impressive. Might sound as such with very creative statements such as yours. Until you look at the fact we fell from around 2nd in buck harvest to around the middle of the pack. And we now harvest as many buck in a several county area as we once did in ONE. Lmao. Kinda knocks some of the spunk out of your deception tactics doesnt it? LOL
Your futile attempt to discredit with your addition of nothingness to the thread was kinda "creative". But the post I made had nothing to do with my wmu or my satisfaction. It is what it is. SPeaks to the pizz poor situation our state is in currently, and it speaks for itself.
06-22-2009, 03:25 PM
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"obviously you never read the Deer Wars Book."
Ive read enough of it to kill my apetite for reading. I thought it might be interesting, but when I saw the level of bias on the part of the author, when the book was supposed to just tell the tale from a completely unbiased perspective. It wasnt the case, so Id seen enough and have no further use for the book.
And once again I'll say it, DEER WARS is not titled as such because our state is in a state of harmony with our deer program and that was my point all along.
I dont see you trying to say otherwise, so not sure why you even chose to act as if I were mistaken in some way. The book explains the history etc...But the entire reason for the book is because of much disagreement in deer management issues currently. Just pointing out the fact it wouldnt even exist if our state were singing koom-by-ya. as is the case if you believe what you read when rsb and a couple of others tell it. LOL.
In first page search results for our states deer management We have a book about "deer wars" a few audubon and audubon affiliated threads, dcnr complaining about deer, and everything else exactly as I stated....You see no problem with that, but are concerned about wether or not Id read the book?
Ive read enough of it to kill my apetite for reading. I thought it might be interesting, but when I saw the level of bias on the part of the author, when the book was supposed to just tell the tale from a completely unbiased perspective. It wasnt the case, so Id seen enough and have no further use for the book.
And once again I'll say it, DEER WARS is not titled as such because our state is in a state of harmony with our deer program and that was my point all along.
I dont see you trying to say otherwise, so not sure why you even chose to act as if I were mistaken in some way. The book explains the history etc...But the entire reason for the book is because of much disagreement in deer management issues currently. Just pointing out the fact it wouldnt even exist if our state were singing koom-by-ya. as is the case if you believe what you read when rsb and a couple of others tell it. LOL.
In first page search results for our states deer management We have a book about "deer wars" a few audubon and audubon affiliated threads, dcnr complaining about deer, and everything else exactly as I stated....You see no problem with that, but are concerned about wether or not Id read the book?
06-22-2009, 05:36 PM
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Funny, must be two Yahoos!! LOL
Here's the link from page 1 of the Yahoo search
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=pa+deer+management&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
This is a cut and paste from page 1 of a Yahoo search for PA DEER MANAGEMENT
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Matter of fact, the first hit that could be construed as being even slightly negative is on the second page of hits
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/pages/valleyindependent/deer/same.html
And the main subject of that one is that there has been controversy over deer numbers since the 30's..........Gee, didn't RSB just post something like that????
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Part three of the Pennsylvania Game Commission's newly released deer management video that offers an in-depth look at how and why the commission manages whit...[/align]www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_X_PDsVjms - 80k - Cached[/align][/align]
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Matter of fact, the first hit that could be construed as being even slightly negative is on the second page of hits
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/pages/valleyindependent/deer/same.html
And the main subject of that one is that there has been controversy over deer numbers since the 30's..........Gee, didn't RSB just post something like that????
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06-23-2009, 11:05 AM
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Sorry, I see I posted the title incorrectly as "yahoo" but did post in correctly in my post. I think you get the point though slappy. lmao.
Course the Yahoo search is just SO MUCH BETTER! lmao. Having dcnr whining about deer and a couple of audubon pages right up front in top few results. Just like their input into our management currently. Right up front.
Course the Yahoo search is just SO MUCH BETTER! lmao. Having dcnr whining about deer and a couple of audubon pages right up front in top few results. Just like their input into our management currently. Right up front.