Wakeup call
#12
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 227
RE: Wakeup call
I can justpicture them, skipping through the forest hand in hand, then deciding who should bend over first to smell the flowers. Is it no wonder, that 50% of married couples aren't evenly divided between men and women. Fruitcakes, that's what they are.
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
RE: Wakeup call
Have you ever ask yourself how much it would cost to manage all species of wildlife if hunting and trapping were completely banned? That will be the biggest factor which will prevent the antis from achieving their goal of banning hunting.
#15
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 227
RE: Wakeup call
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
Have you ever ask yourself how much it would cost to manage all species of wildlife if hunting and trapping were completely banned? That will be the biggest factor which will prevent the antis from achieving their goal of banning hunting.
Have you ever ask yourself how much it would cost to manage all species of wildlife if hunting and trapping were completely banned? That will be the biggest factor which will prevent the antis from achieving their goal of banning hunting.
#17
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: manassas va USA
Posts: 614
RE: Wakeup call
ORIGINAL: Cornelius08
""No matter whether it's timber interests,birdwatchers [:'(], farmers, homeowners, drivers or whatever. Without the support of that 90% we,re finishedand rest assured, no matter what hunters think, the 90% out there believes that there are either too many or enough deer. ""
I have many friends and family members that dont hunt, yet support me and my views 100% in regards to hunting. Id bet just about every other hunter in the state could say the same. DO that 900,000 times and we ARE NOT in the minority. Keep spewing the ecoextremist and antihunter rhetoric which they rely on to spread their lies and deciet and you arent doing anyone any good.[:'(] Audubon was one of the first to spew the "tiny minority of hunters against the world" propaganda.And pgc extremist supporters are all to happy to spread that sentiment.[:'(]
""No matter whether it's timber interests,birdwatchers [:'(], farmers, homeowners, drivers or whatever. Without the support of that 90% we,re finishedand rest assured, no matter what hunters think, the 90% out there believes that there are either too many or enough deer. ""
I have many friends and family members that dont hunt, yet support me and my views 100% in regards to hunting. Id bet just about every other hunter in the state could say the same. DO that 900,000 times and we ARE NOT in the minority. Keep spewing the ecoextremist and antihunter rhetoric which they rely on to spread their lies and deciet and you arent doing anyone any good.[:'(] Audubon was one of the first to spew the "tiny minority of hunters against the world" propaganda.And pgc extremist supporters are all to happy to spread that sentiment.[:'(]
#18
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 584
RE: Wakeup call
I see the anti’s as being a major threat to hunting right now but they are correct that hunter numbers are declining while the anti-hunter numbers are growing. That in its self probably isn’t a major concern provided hunting and it’s management necessity are still recognized by the non hunters and the State Legislature.
I suspect the biggest threat comes from anti hunters getting voted in the Legislature combined with the influence anti-hunters have on the non-hunting members of the Legislature. I believe it is very important for hunters to be professional in their interactions with the non-hunting public. It is not only the perceptions that the non-hunting public have of hunters but also the act of keeping non-hunters educated of the facts of how important haunters are in the big picture of wildlife management. If hunters fail at that the number of non-hunters that slowly become anti-hunters will just continue to increase until the do succeed in ending hunting a species or two at time. All one needs to do is look at how that has already happened in California and New Jersey. It is also threatening other states. Trapping is even more likely to be harmed by the increased power of the anti’s as time moves on, even though there are some species that simply can’t be correctly managed without trapping.
If we lose hunting or trapping we also lose the most effective wildlife management tool available. Yet many hunters either don’t seem to take the treat of anti-hunters seriously or simply refuse to work toward a common objective with other hunters or the wildlife management professionals they don’t agree 100% with. It is encouraging though to see that many hunters do seem to take this threat seriously, because it is a serious threat even if it isn’t one that threatens hunters right this minute or perhaps even this year. Maybe not even this decade, but the work to educate and keep those most important non-hunters as hunter allies should be an ongoing objective and responsibly of every hunter. The worst part is that many hunters simply don’t have the knowledge or the interest it takes to be a good ambassador in explaining the importance of hunting and trapping to the non-hunters in a manner that is both understandable and expectable toward the best interest of their use as a management necessity.
R.S. Bodenhorn
#19
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location:
Posts: 2,978
RE: Wakeup call
"Cornelius, do you believe the antis are a real threat? "
Potentially. But not due to their over the top propaganda that very few pay any attention to. Only way is if they were to weasel there way in andgain seats on the boc and or strategic legislative positions. I dont ever see that as being the case anytime soon. But I do so a huge threat with treehuggers who have managed to weasel their way in and pretend at times to be our friend, They ARE doingdamage, where the antis currently are nothing more than the "boogey man".NEither are afriend of the hunter and have no business in game management. But currentlyone of the two hasboth feet in the door.They are costing us all alot right now. Whereas the antis are basically doing little to nothing and are a barely existing afterthought by comparison.
Potentially. But not due to their over the top propaganda that very few pay any attention to. Only way is if they were to weasel there way in andgain seats on the boc and or strategic legislative positions. I dont ever see that as being the case anytime soon. But I do so a huge threat with treehuggers who have managed to weasel their way in and pretend at times to be our friend, They ARE doingdamage, where the antis currently are nothing more than the "boogey man".NEither are afriend of the hunter and have no business in game management. But currentlyone of the two hasboth feet in the door.They are costing us all alot right now. Whereas the antis are basically doing little to nothing and are a barely existing afterthought by comparison.
#20
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 522
RE: Wakeup call
Several interesting reports and info on hunter participation on this site:
http://www.responsivemanagement.com/
http://www.responsivemanagement.com/