Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
#91
RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
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Suitable places to hunt rabbit and pheasants are scarce and have been for a long time. .
Your question about paying to hunt gamelands makes no sense. I'm sure you are driving at a point with that but I missed it. Please enlighten me
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My point is.....hunters do not want to pay even more money to hunt PA when they aren't seeing deer.
Your statement above about smallgame could be used for my next scenerio.
Would you be willing to buy a rabbit and pheasant small game license to huntthem, if the PGC would implement that idea. Even if you had your health, you would probably pass, because those small game species aren't very abundant.
I could brag to you how I know of a few great rabbit places, I even went out last Saturday and got some.
Just because I found a few rabbits, doesn't mean PA doesn't have a problem with not having many for hunters to hunt.
Of those bucks you have on your wall, how many were taken before HR?
Be honest.
I'd bet you were taking big bucks way before AR or HR.
There are guys like you that have a few Honey Holes and seem to think that things are fine across the state because you have a good place to hunt.
I have a few great places to hunt rabbit, so does that mean rabbit hunting is just fine in your area?
Would it be right for me to call you lazy or a lousy hunter because you can't find rabbits?
I can find them, so what's your problem?
Get my point?
#92
RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
ORIGINAL: Windwalker7
My point is.....hunters do not want to pay even more money to hunt PA when they aren't seeing deer.
My point is.....hunters do not want to pay even more money to hunt PA when they aren't seeing deer.
Your statement above about smallgame could be used for my next scenerio.
Would you be willing to buy a rabbit and pheasant small game license to huntthem, if the PGC would implement that idea. Even if you had your health, you would probably pass, because those small game species aren't very abundant.
I could brag to you how I know of a few great rabbit places, I even went out last Saturday and got some.
Just because I found a few rabbits, doesn't mean PA doesn't have a problem with not having many for hunters to hunt.
Would you be willing to buy a rabbit and pheasant small game license to huntthem, if the PGC would implement that idea. Even if you had your health, you would probably pass, because those small game species aren't very abundant.
I could brag to you how I know of a few great rabbit places, I even went out last Saturday and got some.
Just because I found a few rabbits, doesn't mean PA doesn't have a problem with not having many for hunters to hunt.
Of those bucks you have on your wall, how many were taken before HR?
Be honest.
Be honest.
Two of my PA wall hangers were taken before HR
I'd bet you were taking big bucks way before AR or HR.
There are guys like you that have a few Honey Holes and seem to think that things are fine across the state because you have a good place to hunt.
I have a few great places to hunt rabbit, so does that mean rabbit hunting is just fine in your area?
Would it be right for me to call you lazy or a lousy hunter because you can't find rabbits?
I can find them, so what's your problem?
Get my point?
Would it be right for me to call you lazy or a lousy hunter because you can't find rabbits?
I can find them, so what's your problem?
Get my point?
Actually, I do know of some good rabbit spots because i have friends that are avid beagle guys. If I talked they'd probably shoot me
My pointwould be that it's a hunting license not a killing license and we still have some of the best deer hunting in this country. Is it easy everywhere? Nope. Is it the PGC's fault? Not near as much now as it once was. The only real failure of the PGC with deer is them not growng a spine early enough to head off this situation we have now. Had the PGC managed the numbers based on better science years ago, we would probably be better off especially in the traditional deer woods.
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#93
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
The only real failure of the PGC with deer is them not growng a spine early enough to head off this situation we have now. Had the PGC managed the numbers based on better science years ago, we would probably be better off especially in the traditional deer woods.
#94
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
BTB says:
"we still have some of the best deer hunting in this country"
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
First off, we never did, nor even close.Second its gotten worse, and continuing the slide.
"we still have some of the best deer hunting in this country"
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
First off, we never did, nor even close.Second its gotten worse, and continuing the slide.
#95
RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
ORIGINAL: Cornelius08
"My pointwould be that it's a hunting license not a killing license and we still have some of the best deer hunting in this country."
Simply untrue, and a rediculous exaggeration. Not even close. Nationally speaking, we are a complete joke quality wise, and the best areas of the state wmu-wide have about average quantity, with majroity of the state WELL below what could ever be deemed "good" numbers. I see no reasonable rational argument that can support that statement. REmember we are talking about bubbas honey hole or billy-bobs 1500 acre highly managed lease, we are talking OUR STATE and IN THIS COUNTRY. That makes your statement an "unfunny" joke.
"Is it the PGC's fault? "
Yes.
"My pointwould be that it's a hunting license not a killing license and we still have some of the best deer hunting in this country."
Simply untrue, and a rediculous exaggeration. Not even close. Nationally speaking, we are a complete joke quality wise, and the best areas of the state wmu-wide have about average quantity, with majroity of the state WELL below what could ever be deemed "good" numbers. I see no reasonable rational argument that can support that statement. REmember we are talking about bubbas honey hole or billy-bobs 1500 acre highly managed lease, we are talking OUR STATE and IN THIS COUNTRY. That makes your statement an "unfunny" joke.
"Is it the PGC's fault? "
Yes.
BTB says:
"we still have some of the best deer hunting in this country"
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
First off, we never did, nor even close.Second its gotten worse, and continuing the slide.
< Message edited by Cornelius08 -- 2/3/2009 5:50:46 PM >
"we still have some of the best deer hunting in this country"
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
First off, we never did, nor even close.Second its gotten worse, and continuing the slide.
< Message edited by Cornelius08 -- 2/3/2009 5:50:46 PM >
If we are such a nationwide joke, perhaps you can explain why Pa has repeatedly been held up as a positive example in virtually ever sporting publication across the USA. Better yet, show me one non USP publication where our deer program is being called a joke. If you can find one, which I doubt, during your search, you'll have to wade through dozens where PA is being applauded.
#96
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
Ok btb, your right, we're tops! (LOL) (LOL)(LOL)
Why dont writers pick on Pa? Same reason they dont pick on other bottom barrel states.
On the other hand, ask anyone from DECENT deer states or worse yet, GOOD ones and see how many would bewilling to trade the hunting in THEIR state for Pa's (LOL)(LOL)They'll laugh in your face.
I also didnt say anything about our rediculous joke deer program. You said our state was among the best hunting in the nation. Im simply stating that is complete lunacy and you better go get checked. That tick bite is effecting your judgement.
But since YOU brought it up, yes the joke deer plan is responsible forworsening the situation!
#99
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
My opinion on the subject,I blame the feds for the low rabbit numbers.There's way too many hawks and it's time to lift protection to a point.I've also noticed a decline in rabbit numbers as the coyote population increased.{my area in clearfield}
I would like to see more done for grouse habitat.
We have a pretty good bear population right now
pretty good for turkeys too in most places.
There's some great deer hunting in PA but a very high percentage of that is on controlled private land.I'd like to see more done for land open to hunting and the problems of overharvesting.
I would like to see more done for grouse habitat.
We have a pretty good bear population right now
pretty good for turkeys too in most places.
There's some great deer hunting in PA but a very high percentage of that is on controlled private land.I'd like to see more done for land open to hunting and the problems of overharvesting.