how many hunt public land
01-05-2009, 10:05 AM
#21
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RE: how many hunt public land
ORIGINAL: rybohunter
I cannot believe some of the things I’ve read in this thread. Time to click the little red hand again.
Pedro, if you truly don’t understand why someone would hunt in a thicket, that has GOT to be a leading reason why you aren’t seeing deer. If you can’t get past that, you are beyond help.
My gameland experience is a little limited, but the times I have hunted there I really cannot complain. Yea it can be a zoo at times but the places were not so devoid of deer that it made hunting useless. Call me crazy but if I was hunting somewhere and wasn’t seeing deer or deer sign, I’d move. Whether it was 100 yds or 10 miles.
I cannot believe some of the things I’ve read in this thread. Time to click the little red hand again.
Pedro, if you truly don’t understand why someone would hunt in a thicket, that has GOT to be a leading reason why you aren’t seeing deer. If you can’t get past that, you are beyond help.
My gameland experience is a little limited, but the times I have hunted there I really cannot complain. Yea it can be a zoo at times but the places were not so devoid of deer that it made hunting useless. Call me crazy but if I was hunting somewhere and wasn’t seeing deer or deer sign, I’d move. Whether it was 100 yds or 10 miles.
01-05-2009, 10:06 AM
#22
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RE: how many hunt public land
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
I think I might have given the wrong impression with my last post. First, I don't have that much experience on many gamelands in recent years. The very large one that we regularly pass near camp does always seem to get more pressure than the surrounding public ground so we simply keep on going.
Forexample, we slept in on the last day of rifle seasonat camp. We madeit out the door toward our planned spots about the time we should have been on stand. We we're talking about the lack of hunters (parked vehicles) till we hit thegamelandsborder. over the next couple of miles we saw about a dozen cars. Not really a crowd but we only saw two cars in several more miles once we were past the gamelands. This was a typical scenario.
I have no doubt that there is plenty of game deep into that gamelands butsince a virusleft me with permanent heart damage afew years back, Iamno longer capable of going in beyond the crowds. One of my regular companions at camp has a leg thats essentially paralyzed from mid thigh down and since we can find places we can get to that arent pressured, we simply drive on by.
We are usually able to find plenty ofdeer and solitude right down the road. But thats in my part of 2F where there is basically one very large gamelands surounded by ANF and timber company land.
Nearer to home, the game lands where I've hunted in 2B also get a ton of pressure.
From my limited experiences in 2G which was in the Ridgeway and St Marys areas several years ago, I do seem to remember an abundance of gamelands which would seem to dilute the pressure from those folks who seem to seek them out. A that time, we always saw hunters but the numbers were manageable.
I think I might have given the wrong impression with my last post. First, I don't have that much experience on many gamelands in recent years. The very large one that we regularly pass near camp does always seem to get more pressure than the surrounding public ground so we simply keep on going.
Forexample, we slept in on the last day of rifle seasonat camp. We madeit out the door toward our planned spots about the time we should have been on stand. We we're talking about the lack of hunters (parked vehicles) till we hit thegamelandsborder. over the next couple of miles we saw about a dozen cars. Not really a crowd but we only saw two cars in several more miles once we were past the gamelands. This was a typical scenario.
I have no doubt that there is plenty of game deep into that gamelands butsince a virusleft me with permanent heart damage afew years back, Iamno longer capable of going in beyond the crowds. One of my regular companions at camp has a leg thats essentially paralyzed from mid thigh down and since we can find places we can get to that arent pressured, we simply drive on by.
We are usually able to find plenty ofdeer and solitude right down the road. But thats in my part of 2F where there is basically one very large gamelands surounded by ANF and timber company land.
Nearer to home, the game lands where I've hunted in 2B also get a ton of pressure.
From my limited experiences in 2G which was in the Ridgeway and St Marys areas several years ago, I do seem to remember an abundance of gamelands which would seem to dilute the pressure from those folks who seem to seek them out. A that time, we always saw hunters but the numbers were manageable.
01-05-2009, 10:11 AM
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RE: how many hunt public land
Yep sproul. Hunters.
BUT I hunt a private land "zoo" too. Some days/seasons are worse than others, but I can typically gain myself space by heading for the thickest cover. It's too small to "out hike" anyone. I sit in the thick stuff & kill deer while most others hunt fields & where they can see. We have enough deer that they still usually see some, but they are running 500 mph and are tough to hit.
BUT I hunt a private land "zoo" too. Some days/seasons are worse than others, but I can typically gain myself space by heading for the thickest cover. It's too small to "out hike" anyone. I sit in the thick stuff & kill deer while most others hunt fields & where they can see. We have enough deer that they still usually see some, but they are running 500 mph and are tough to hit.
01-05-2009, 10:31 AM
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RE: how many hunt public land
ORIGINAL: rybohunter
Yep sproul. Hunters.
BUT I hunt a private land "zoo" too. Some days/seasons are worse than others, but I can typically gain myself space by heading for the thickest cover. It's too small to "out hike" anyone. I sit in the thick stuff & kill deer while most others hunt fields & where they can see. We have enough deer that they still usually see some, but they are running 500 mph and are tough to hit.
Yep sproul. Hunters.
BUT I hunt a private land "zoo" too. Some days/seasons are worse than others, but I can typically gain myself space by heading for the thickest cover. It's too small to "out hike" anyone. I sit in the thick stuff & kill deer while most others hunt fields & where they can see. We have enough deer that they still usually see some, but they are running 500 mph and are tough to hit.
the PGC needs to close deer hunting on their SGL land for a few years.
then get a good estimate how many deer are on there and only allow so many tags to hunt deer there,IF THEY WANT TO HAVE DEER .
otherwise, its more of same, BEST HABITAT IN WORLD AND WORST HUNTING OF DEER/GROUSE/SQUIRREALS/RABBITS,yes rabbits, those rabbit hunters day in day out can clean a area right out.
i once was a rabbit hunter, i know what has happened.
RSB said it right on rabbits,the farms is one reason for less rabbits, over killing by hunters,predators,years ago a rabbit hunter would shoot a cat or owl, not now.
but you have great habitat in sgl and very few rabbits,WHY , because habitat IS great and that is where the pressure was put on rabbits by hunters and predators.
