BTBowhunter

Oh no! Sproulman called me kooky! Now I'll never get any respect around here!

sproulman

my only disagreement with you is you think everything is ROSY and like what is happening with our hunting here on stateforestland in wmu2g.

maybe being you hunt on lease land or privateland, you dont see what is happening.

we get doe season stopped here in WMU2G for 1 week, you disagree.

its funny how some people like you think they know what is REALLY happening in WMU2G even tho you dont hunt here,live here,fish,born here...

you are entiled to your opinion even tho you are wrong on most ,not all, but most.

your thinking is correct for area you hunt on, like privateland with lots of deer and control over hunters.
but your world is not real world that most of us here in WMU2G are experiencing..

your KOOKY comments are welcome, hey i make 1 once in awhile,but try to be more OPEN with your comments..
we all have opinions on here and just because you kill a nice buck on privateland DOES NOT make you expert on what is happening on publicland here in WMU2G.

chuckacorn

Mikwpsu54,
I hunt all over Indiana county. I own 40 acres of property near Strongstown about 5 miles East of yellow creek and hunt that a lot. Lots of turkeys but deer are scarce. I hunt SGL 276 a lot too .

Let me try that

sproulman

Pawildman

Chuckacorn......Heard lots of stories about a local farmer in that area who keeps the deer herd "under control" but also posts his ground... maybe part of the reason you don't see as many deer. That is some nice country out there you hunt in.

BTBowhunter

OK here we go

My position on the management of your hunting area (2G), since I dont know it well and dont hunt there, is to trust the judgement of the people whose job it is to manage the deer herd within it's habitat.

You obviously have ignored a fact I've stated many times here. Ihave a camp and do a lot of public land hunting in 2F, a lot of which appears to be somewhat similar to much of the habitat in 2G. I have seen a drastic improvement in the quality of the deer herd on the public land I hunt in 2F. Your arguement that I only hunt private land is full of holes.

Now, close to my home, I hunt private land because that's pretty much all there is. What I've also said many timesbefore, is that much of the private land I hunt close to homeis unposted and wide open to public hunting. Some of my best bucks have come fromthat open"private land"
I do also have some private honey holes where very few can get in to but thats not my only hunting or even the big majority of it. One of myprivate honey holes is 5 acres that does happen to be posted but I hunt within a bow shot of the property line which borders more private, but open, land.
My perspective on deer management comes from all of my hunting experiences, not just my private land hunting.

I am neutral on the change to 2G (and 2D where I often hunt) not against it. I actually think it's a good idea to at least see how the harvest changes with the proposed new season in those areas.

You are correct that we all have a right to an opinion. My problem with most of your posts is the way you try to portray hunters in your corner of Pennsylvania. You've repeatedly made absolutely outrageous claims of massive poaching and illegal shenanigans in your area. If we take your word for it, everyone who comes to your area is an outlaw. If even half of it were true, you'd have proof but your posts are always lacking in that department. The "I heard it at the bar from a guy who knows the guys cousin and you can count on it" stories you come up with are beyond belief. Most times I can just blow it off when you do it, but when I see new guys and guys from other states buying intoone or your loads of crap, I realize that your rants are damaging to all PA hunters. Thats tends to get me fired up.

If you really turned in every violation you claim to have witnessed or "know" to be absolutely true, the WCO's in 2G would never have time to sleep and the PGC would needto call in major reinforcements.

Maybe if you stopped trying to sensationalize everything, someone might listen. I cant take credit for the following quote but it certainly fits most of your posts:

"I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate"

Bocajnala

Yea I have heard that too......sad...... we have a cabin in kenwood, we hunt between clymer, Diamondville, cherry tree and pine flats. we have a lot of property available to us to hunt still, but we have been losing a little every year. and about the farmer thining deer down, I do not know if it is the same one, but my cousin worked for a farmer in the area and he said that he knows of over 150 deer shot over this last summer and just left to lay......and after he said that we hardly saw any deer this year... If I could have a few words with these farmers that are "controlling" the deer......grrrr

nodog

I only have seen the harvest numbers from 2001-2005 and in that time the harvested deer drooped from 550,000-350,000. You wont have deer if ya kill the does and let the bucks walk, period. Alt should by all rights be a poster boy for Peta.

Sorry to say it but Ohio, and we don't even have the numbers Pa has is on the same plan, just not as drastick. No point minimum yet.

WillCz

I am afraid to shoot a doe where I hunt on public land. It might just be the last one for a couple miles and next year there will be none instead of just 1 or 2.

I do have coworkers that hunt the same land and last year both shot doe and complain about not seeing any deer. I get a doe tag every year and wouldn't dream of using the tag. Went up at the end of deer season in the snow and I saw about 3 deer tracks in a 7 mile walk through the many food plots.

When will it all stop!!!!!!

WillCz

I have had HUGE concerns that ALT was part of PETA. Look all over the country. PETA works in many different ways. PA wasone ofthe most famous deer hutning spots in US. Now it has be reduced to rubble. Sounds like a PETA success story at work. If the sport gets reduced to nothing in PA it will be easy to eliminate the whole thing since the economic impact will already have beed reduced to nothing.

Think about it. DO NOT SHOOT ANOTHER DOE IN PA. It is our only chance of survival!!!!!!!!!