BTBowhunter

OK here we go...



I really didnt want to start this thread, but I'm starting it in the hope that this topic will stay here and that it will stop the hijacking of countless other threads so one member can get onthe soapbox again.

The theory is that adults are swiping their kids tags so that they can shoot little bucks and get past the antler restrictions. Just like the guy who buys his wife a license so he can tag multiple bucks, I'm sure it happens but am convinced that it cant be a significant problem.

Scenario one:

Imagine having your son or daughter out hunting and a small buck comes by and shooting it instead of letting the kid shoot it and then asking the kid to tag it. How many believ there are a large numebr of parents out there who would do that?

Scenario two:

OK, the kid doesnt care, doesnt want to hunt so dad buys him a license anyway and drags him out so he can shoot his deer for him. Any father who has had his child hunting knows that it's challenge enough to keep a young hunter still, warm and comfortable and patient enough when they want to hunt. It's hard to imagine sitting on a deer stand with a kid who doesnt want to be there so dad can shoot the kids buck for him.

Scenario Three:

The kid never sees the woods. dad simply takes the extra tag with him and puts it on the small buck. This one makes no sense either. The penalty for getting caught with somenone else tag on your deer or using the license of another is far more severe than the $25 for the mistake shooting of a small buck. It's also far worse to use the tag of another than simply not tagging the buck. For those that are so inclined, it would make more sense to simply shoot the deer and take their chances getting it out and getting it home. We all know that the chance of being checked on any given hunting day are slim to none.


Do some abuse the AR's? Sure they do. Do some use the kid rule to do so? Probably. Does it even make sense that this would be a widespread problem. NO

In a world where we are replacing every 100 hunters who dies or gets too old to hunt with only 69 new hunters, we need to continue to do everything we can to bring our youth into the sport. The new mentored youth program has been a big success with no safety problems. Statistics show that the total sub A bucks killed by juniors is insignificant.

LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE!

this is what it's all about......

rybohunter

My thoughts are yes, that it does happen. To what degree.....I don't know, depends on what someone considers widespread. I'd say maybe alittle more than occsional, but not a HUGE problem.

Now, poaching in general, I think is a much bigger problem than most want to admit, and has been LONG before any of these new regulations have gone into place. Multiple deer, multiple bucks, very littel risk of getting caught, and a societal "acceptance" of that just being how it is.

For what its worth, I thinka junior license should come with an either sex tag, and require that AR's be followed.

Charlie P

I'm not from Pa but we heard the same type arguments agaisnt a youth Turkey season in Ny.

Is ita perfect thing nope, but it helps get kids in the woods.

I don't think it's a big problem and defiantely not as bis a problem as some here try and say it is.

The cougars are killing way more deer then that anyway.[8D]

livbucks

I believe it happens quite a bit, but we must do what is right for the kids and good for the sport long term.
We can't design our management plans around the criminal element.

Mr. Longbeard

I say if you put 10 hunters in a line up... 7 of them are poachers

lost horn

Now how many of you guys would use your kids tag to shoot this deer ?

bawanajim

I think the butt plugs that use their kids tags on their bucks will shoot deer any time they want ,they are slobs, andwill always be slobs, and we will always have some of them

lost horn

Well said !! DITTO'S

GREENRIDGE BANDIT

Yeah, I agree bawanajim, there's alot of butt plugs and butt pirates out there. Especially now that you can check a deer on a computerorphone.

BTBowhunter

Bawanajim,
Very well said. It's the point I was trying to make all along. Slimeballs will do what they want anyway. The special AR's for kids don't make the slimeballs any worse.