New York antler restrictions
#21
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
RE: New York antler restrictions
we like the AR here in wmu2g of pa. where i hunt BUT hunters are not letting it work ..
kids now from diapers to 16 can kill a small buckand not have to look at 3 point to side..
adults are using the kids tags to shoot ANY BUCK,they dont even look, its brown its down with kids tag...
the bucks we are LEGALLY getting with 3 points are very healthy deer,so we like the restriction very much BUT dont like what we are hearing hunters are doing with kids tags..
this should stop and only KID age 12 can kill a buck without 3 points to side his or her first year..
this wouldreduce the amount of small bucks that are shot to get mature and slow down the BROWN ITS DOWN WITH KIDS TAG hunters....
kids now from diapers to 16 can kill a small buckand not have to look at 3 point to side..
adults are using the kids tags to shoot ANY BUCK,they dont even look, its brown its down with kids tag...
the bucks we are LEGALLY getting with 3 points are very healthy deer,so we like the restriction very much BUT dont like what we are hearing hunters are doing with kids tags..
this should stop and only KID age 12 can kill a buck without 3 points to side his or her first year..
this wouldreduce the amount of small bucks that are shot to get mature and slow down the BROWN ITS DOWN WITH KIDS TAG hunters....
#22
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 8
RE: New York antler restrictions
ORIGINAL: sproulman
we like the AR here in wmu2g of pa. where i hunt BUT hunters are not letting it work ..
kids now from diapers to 16 can kill a small buckand not have to look at 3 point to side..
adults are using the kids tags to shoot ANY BUCK,they dont even look, its brown its down with kids tag...
the bucks we are LEGALLY getting with 3 points are very healthy deer,so we like the restriction very much BUT dont like what we are hearing hunters are doing with kids tags..
this should stop and only KID age 12 can kill a buck without 3 points to side his or her first year..
this wouldreduce the amount of small bucks that are shot to get mature and slow down the BROWN ITS DOWN WITH KIDS TAG hunters....
we like the AR here in wmu2g of pa. where i hunt BUT hunters are not letting it work ..
kids now from diapers to 16 can kill a small buckand not have to look at 3 point to side..
adults are using the kids tags to shoot ANY BUCK,they dont even look, its brown its down with kids tag...
the bucks we are LEGALLY getting with 3 points are very healthy deer,so we like the restriction very much BUT dont like what we are hearing hunters are doing with kids tags..
this should stop and only KID age 12 can kill a buck without 3 points to side his or her first year..
this wouldreduce the amount of small bucks that are shot to get mature and slow down the BROWN ITS DOWN WITH KIDS TAG hunters....
#23
RE: New York antler restrictions
ORIGINAL: sproulman
we like the AR here in wmu2g of pa. where i hunt BUT hunters are not letting it work ..
kids now from diapers to 16 can kill a small buckand not have to look at 3 point to side..
adults are using the kids tags to shoot ANY BUCK,they dont even look, its brown its down with kids tag...
the bucks we are LEGALLY getting with 3 points are very healthy deer,so we like the restriction very much BUT dont like what we are hearing hunters are doing with kids tags..
this should stop and only KID age 12 can kill a buck without 3 points to side his or her first year..
this wouldreduce the amount of small bucks that are shot to get mature and slow down the BROWN ITS DOWN WITH KIDS TAG hunters....
we like the AR here in wmu2g of pa. where i hunt BUT hunters are not letting it work ..
kids now from diapers to 16 can kill a small buckand not have to look at 3 point to side..
adults are using the kids tags to shoot ANY BUCK,they dont even look, its brown its down with kids tag...
the bucks we are LEGALLY getting with 3 points are very healthy deer,so we like the restriction very much BUT dont like what we are hearing hunters are doing with kids tags..
this should stop and only KID age 12 can kill a buck without 3 points to side his or her first year..
this wouldreduce the amount of small bucks that are shot to get mature and slow down the BROWN ITS DOWN WITH KIDS TAG hunters....
To get back on topic, You all must have seen the controversy over PA's antler restrictions. It hasnt worked perfectly, but it certainly has improved the age class and therefore quality of our bucks overall. AR's arent QDM. But in a state like ours, and yours, with the hunting pressure the deer have to deal with, it will cause an improvement in the average age and therefore the antler quality of your bucks.
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,862
RE: New York antler restrictions
To get back on topic, You all must have seen the controversy over PA's antler restrictions. It hasnt worked perfectly, but it certainly has improved the age class and therefore quality of our bucks overall. AR's arent QDM. But in a state like ours, and yours, with the hunting pressure the deer have to deal with, it will cause an improvement in the average age and therefore the antler quality of your bucks.
#25
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Allston MA USA
Posts: 533
RE: New York antler restrictions
[Read the rest of my thread.
but one liners don't make/support a point - [/quote]
I think your missing it. My one liner is right to the point, that AR's are not trophy mgt. Thats it.
I have no point to make about AR's in NY or any other state. And I don;t want to define shooter for anyone. Legal deeris all I care about...good luck out there..
but one liners don't make/support a point - [/quote]
I think your missing it. My one liner is right to the point, that AR's are not trophy mgt. Thats it.
I have no point to make about AR's in NY or any other state. And I don;t want to define shooter for anyone. Legal deeris all I care about...good luck out there..
#26
RE: New York antler restrictions
If hunters would just get this horn mentality out of their heads they might enjoy the outdoors a whole lot more and be complaining a whole lot less!
If I decided to shoot the first bick I got a chance at I'd be done buck hunting pretty quick every year. I enjoy seeing deer and want to shoot mature bucks, because I shot alot of 1.5 yr olds and ot's not that much of a challenge, but I'm not asking anyone to hunt my way. However I do see the herd being out of whack according to what nature intended. I think we should strive for the same birth ratio buck to doe that you see nature trying to acheive.
#27
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
RE: New York antler restrictions
ORIGINAL: outdoorstom
That's a shame that people abuse the system like that. I can totally understand your frustration. What is the actual legal age a kid must be to get a tag?
ORIGINAL: sproulman
we like the AR here in wmu2g of pa. where i hunt BUT hunters are not letting it work ..
kids now from diapers to 16 can kill a small buckand not have to look at 3 point to side..
adults are using the kids tags to shoot ANY BUCK,they dont even look, its brown its down with kids tag...
the bucks we are LEGALLY getting with 3 points are very healthy deer,so we like the restriction very much BUT dont like what we are hearing hunters are doing with kids tags..
this should stop and only KID age 12 can kill a buck without 3 points to side his or her first year..
this wouldreduce the amount of small bucks that are shot to get mature and slow down the BROWN ITS DOWN WITH KIDS TAG hunters....
we like the AR here in wmu2g of pa. where i hunt BUT hunters are not letting it work ..
kids now from diapers to 16 can kill a small buckand not have to look at 3 point to side..
adults are using the kids tags to shoot ANY BUCK,they dont even look, its brown its down with kids tag...
the bucks we are LEGALLY getting with 3 points are very healthy deer,so we like the restriction very much BUT dont like what we are hearing hunters are doing with kids tags..
this should stop and only KID age 12 can kill a buck without 3 points to side his or her first year..
this wouldreduce the amount of small bucks that are shot to get mature and slow down the BROWN ITS DOWN WITH KIDS TAG hunters....
i will PM you do to a STALKER on here that spends his time following me from post to post..
he hunts privateland,has motive and is guide..
if you are interested in what happens on privateland,he is your boy!
#29
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,862
RE: New York antler restrictions
Well your looking no better then what your complaining about with that statement. Who are you to determine how a person gets enjoyment from their hunt. If I choose to horn hunt as long as it doesn't effect your hunting why should you care.