Views on PA Rack Restriction
01-15-2003, 08:56 AM
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Views on PA Rack Restriction
Hunting buddy from southwestern PA reports finding several small bucks left in the woods. Any thoughts on how that experiment went?
Edited by - Rob/PA Bowyer on 01/18/2003 09:58:19
Edited by - Rob/PA Bowyer on 01/18/2003 09:58:19
01-15-2003, 04:25 PM
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RE: Views on PA Rack Restriction
a friend of mine his uncle shot a 4 point that wasn't legal and turned himself in and paid the $25.00 fine few days later the game commision got ahold of him and gonna give him another fine for not properly identifing his target which carries a $300.00 fine everyone at the store that heard this said they will never turn them-self in.
01-15-2003, 06:08 PM
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RE: Views on PA Rack Restriction
I think it's great. You build up that herd of BIG BONES and I'll have to breakdown and renew my PA hunting license in a couple years.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
There are going to be a few illegal kills no matter what the penalty. I think a $25 fine is ridiculous. If they really want to get the point across they should announce ahead of time what it will be and make it painful. The "Failure to Identify your target" add on fine was to make up for the screw up in the first fine I believe. I really have to believe they intended it to be more than $25. Some one knew the judge or something so the DNR took matters into their own hands. Probably if the laws were really read from front to back there is not a law saying you MUST identify your target. It's probably a suggestion.. one of the 10 commandments of hunting etc.... but probably not a written law with a penial code number.
There are going to be a few illegal kills no matter what the penalty. I think a $25 fine is ridiculous. If they really want to get the point across they should announce ahead of time what it will be and make it painful. The "Failure to Identify your target" add on fine was to make up for the screw up in the first fine I believe. I really have to believe they intended it to be more than $25. Some one knew the judge or something so the DNR took matters into their own hands. Probably if the laws were really read from front to back there is not a law saying you MUST identify your target. It's probably a suggestion.. one of the 10 commandments of hunting etc.... but probably not a written law with a penial code number.
01-15-2003, 07:06 PM
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RE: Views on PA Rack Restriction
Loss of hunting license for people who leave deer like that sounds like a great idea! That is terrible, the least the people could do is take it home and butcher it, make something out of it, instead of waste. I wish Kansas had an antler restriction.
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01-15-2003, 07:21 PM
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RE: Views on PA Rack Restriction
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I think the fine is supposed to be $25. I suspect something else is going on with the second fine.
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I think the fine is supposed to be $25. I suspect something else is going on with the second fine.
beprepn
01-15-2003, 08:24 PM
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RE: Views on PA Rack Restriction
Personally I feel the point restriction for PA is the best thing to happen and should have been implemented years ago. That being said I think the reporting of small bucks left in the woods is more than not, rumors and the start of urban myth....now I'm not saying it didn't happen, after all, this is PA and although I want to think the majority of hunters in PA are ethical, I know in every crowd, their lurks pathetic people. Those who left any deer laying in the woods, poachers and not hunters. BUT of those found, I wonder how many were shot by youths and just simply not recovered...and then speculation occurs. Again, I'm sure it happened but no more or less than the finding of doe that were shot in our previous antlered only seasons..
It's no secret to anyone that if a buck has a chance to grow for one or two seasons what can happen in antler growth. Also, it's no secret that a buck isn't even considered mature until he's 5.5 years old or more so it only makes common sense to allow immature bucks to grow to an older age. How can anyone argue with that.
The biggest whine going into point restrictions was for our youth hunters....that being considered, they allowed youths to shoot any buck....then the whine became, but they'll be left to rot in the woods, again, it probably happened to some scale, but no one will truely know the numbers, it's mostly speculation and that it happen at all is terrible and pathetic.
If someone has factual information against this past point restrictions, I truly would like to read it...along with the resource the facts came from. Most people preach from emotion so what is truly wrong with allowing bucks to grow. Too many facts point in the positive direction not to implement them.
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It's no secret to anyone that if a buck has a chance to grow for one or two seasons what can happen in antler growth. Also, it's no secret that a buck isn't even considered mature until he's 5.5 years old or more so it only makes common sense to allow immature bucks to grow to an older age. How can anyone argue with that.
The biggest whine going into point restrictions was for our youth hunters....that being considered, they allowed youths to shoot any buck....then the whine became, but they'll be left to rot in the woods, again, it probably happened to some scale, but no one will truely know the numbers, it's mostly speculation and that it happen at all is terrible and pathetic.
If someone has factual information against this past point restrictions, I truly would like to read it...along with the resource the facts came from. Most people preach from emotion so what is truly wrong with allowing bucks to grow. Too many facts point in the positive direction not to implement them.
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01-15-2003, 08:45 PM
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RE: Views on PA Rack Restriction
David,
You get your old butt up here to Pennsylvania this archery season and help me thin this heard out some <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Seriously though, if you decide to hunt Pa next year, my hunting grounds are open. I got too many deer running around here to control. I bet that I could put you in an area where you would see a dozen or more deer every evening.
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You get your old butt up here to Pennsylvania this archery season and help me thin this heard out some <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Seriously though, if you decide to hunt Pa next year, my hunting grounds are open. I got too many deer running around here to control. I bet that I could put you in an area where you would see a dozen or more deer every evening.
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
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01-16-2003, 07:16 AM
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RE: Views on PA Rack Restriction
BM... I did get a PA license a couple years ago and almost renewed this year but had several trips to NY planned and backed out. I'll probably get it for next year. Maybe we'll hook up somewhere.