orange reqs. for ny
07-17-2007, 08:16 AM
#13
Join Date: Jul 2006
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RE: orange reqs. for ny
Last year (my 2nd year hunting) I was hunting the back of our property which is a creek bed. I saw some movement coming down the hill of the adjoining property. After some carefull inspection, I saw that it was a another hunter. The only orange he had on was a reversable hat that had the orange on the underside, so every so often I could see a flash of it from under the bill of the hat.
I radioed my husband to let him know, and he came and got me. As a new hunter, it made me nervous with someone like that behind me with a gun.
I radioed my husband to let him know, and he came and got me. As a new hunter, it made me nervous with someone like that behind me with a gun.
07-17-2007, 10:32 AM
#15
Join Date: Jul 2006
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RE: orange reqs. for ny
I agree if its not broke, don't fix it. However, I just would have hoped that all hunters would have common sence. I know....wishful thinking on my part. The fact that he did not have orange on made me question his overall commen sence.
07-17-2007, 11:37 AM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 2,435
RE: orange reqs. for ny
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If you want to wear orange, feel safer wearing it ect, by all means wear it. On the other hand, don't worry about the other guy, he'll make his own decision and live or die by the consequences. He's an adult, and fully capable of making his own decisions based on his own circumstances.Thats his choice.
New York has low hunter accident rates, as low as states with mandatory laws. There is nothing to be gained by adding another law to the already crowded books other than a few extra dollars in state coffers due to new fines, and a few more hunters that pull the trigger at non-orange movement.
The Nanny mentality many hunters have of wanting to force everybody in every situation to wear a pumpkin suit sickens me. It's much like the hand-wringing there was over allowing rifles in the southern tier. Many a hunter, in these very boards claimed there would be 'blood in the streets'. Nothing happened, deer season went off with nary a hitch, just as it did when people were shooting slugs.
I think what it comes down to is, for the majority, we hunters are a pretty conservative, safe, mindful group. Even without Big Brother holding our hand we seem to make the right decisions in the right circumstances, and 99.9% ofus make it home safe. There will always be idiots and accidents, and there is no way you can legislate them away.
If you want to wear orange, feel safer wearing it ect, by all means wear it. On the other hand, don't worry about the other guy, he'll make his own decision and live or die by the consequences. He's an adult, and fully capable of making his own decisions based on his own circumstances.Thats his choice.
New York has low hunter accident rates, as low as states with mandatory laws. There is nothing to be gained by adding another law to the already crowded books other than a few extra dollars in state coffers due to new fines, and a few more hunters that pull the trigger at non-orange movement.
The Nanny mentality many hunters have of wanting to force everybody in every situation to wear a pumpkin suit sickens me. It's much like the hand-wringing there was over allowing rifles in the southern tier. Many a hunter, in these very boards claimed there would be 'blood in the streets'. Nothing happened, deer season went off with nary a hitch, just as it did when people were shooting slugs.
I think what it comes down to is, for the majority, we hunters are a pretty conservative, safe, mindful group. Even without Big Brother holding our hand we seem to make the right decisions in the right circumstances, and 99.9% ofus make it home safe. There will always be idiots and accidents, and there is no way you can legislate them away.
07-29-2007, 08:41 AM
#18
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 6
RE: orange reqs. for ny
Well I can understand why they ask people to wear the vest but on a slightly sick and funny thing, it stops future Dick Chaney's from accidently shooting other hunters. Now everyone I say that to can't help but laugh.
07-29-2007, 09:30 PM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: cazenovia, NY USA
Posts: 2,973
RE: orange reqs. for ny
99.9% making it home safe isn't good enough for me.
I know you are just giving it as an example - but 1 death in 1000 is the same as 1000 deaths in 1 Million.
Agreed - lets don't legislate Orange. - BUUUUT - anyone that wears Carhardts or Full camo in gun season is just plain foolish- makes me think they want to hide from the Humans (landowners, other hunters, etc) more than the deer.
Put an orange hat on for god sakes! Should I tell my young son who is just getting into hunting - that if he accidentally kills a guy in full camo that it couldn't be helped?
Lets just say I'll be wearing orange - and so will my kids in NY for gun Season. I expect every reasonable hunter in NY would WANT to be seen by other hunters.
FH
I know you are just giving it as an example - but 1 death in 1000 is the same as 1000 deaths in 1 Million.
Agreed - lets don't legislate Orange. - BUUUUT - anyone that wears Carhardts or Full camo in gun season is just plain foolish- makes me think they want to hide from the Humans (landowners, other hunters, etc) more than the deer.
Put an orange hat on for god sakes! Should I tell my young son who is just getting into hunting - that if he accidentally kills a guy in full camo that it couldn't be helped?
Lets just say I'll be wearing orange - and so will my kids in NY for gun Season. I expect every reasonable hunter in NY would WANT to be seen by other hunters.
FH