A good story about our WCOs.
12-11-2006, 06:04 PM
#11
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
I understand that former PGCExecutive Director Vern Ross was working in the capacity of Deputy Game Warden in Bradford county this rifle season.
Now, Vern is a real gentlemen. Perhaps more DGW's will follow is lead.
Now, Vern is a real gentlemen. Perhaps more DGW's will follow is lead.
12-12-2006, 06:55 AM
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
several antlerless deer",
Just admit, you bragged about killing 5 button bucks on purpose, and
Your the lucky one here, had you followed through and sent a knee the groin the state police would then have you on the ground with handcuffs....with the second officer as a witness he had every right to check you regardless and you were absolutely in the wrong. Of course with the approach of the othe members of your family the made a smart choice as to the circumstance was worth the debate. They were right, you were absolutley wrong!.
Just admit, you bragged about killing 5 button bucks on purpose, and
Your the lucky one here, had you followed through and sent a knee the groin the state police would then have you on the ground with handcuffs....with the second officer as a witness he had every right to check you regardless and you were absolutely in the wrong. Of course with the approach of the othe members of your family the made a smart choice as to the circumstance was worth the debate. They were right, you were absolutley wrong!.
12-12-2006, 07:30 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
"several antlerless deer",
Just admit, you bragged about killing 5 button bucks on purpose, and
Your the lucky one here, had you followed through and sent a knee the groin the state police would then have you on the ground with handcuffs....with the second officer as a witness he had every right to check you regardless and you were absolutely in the wrong. Of course with the approach of the othe members of your family the made a smart choice as to the circumstance was worth the debate. They were right, you were absolutley wrong!.
ORIGINAL: eagle chickie
I killed an archery buck and severalanterless deer this year, so on the first day of rifle I was not carrying a weapon other than a 4' branch while helping to drive deer on our farm to family members.
I said no you won't I want a female officer to do the "pat down".He says he has the right to force me to comply to his "patting"..I was about to put my knee in his groin when my uncle and cousin came into view and I called them to come quick!!!
I killed an archery buck and severalanterless deer this year, so on the first day of rifle I was not carrying a weapon other than a 4' branch while helping to drive deer on our farm to family members.
I said no you won't I want a female officer to do the "pat down".He says he has the right to force me to comply to his "patting"..I was about to put my knee in his groin when my uncle and cousin came into view and I called them to come quick!!!
Just admit, you bragged about killing 5 button bucks on purpose, and
Your the lucky one here, had you followed through and sent a knee the groin the state police would then have you on the ground with handcuffs....with the second officer as a witness he had every right to check you regardless and you were absolutely in the wrong. Of course with the approach of the othe members of your family the made a smart choice as to the circumstance was worth the debate. They were right, you were absolutley wrong!.
The reason they probably left so quick is they didn't feel like putting up with a half a$$ed legal battle over someone who is just vindictive against WCOs, I for one don't blame them at all.
12-12-2006, 07:44 AM
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
Does anyone find it interesting that when a PGCrepresentative expressed an interest in investigating this "incident" we suddenly clammed up?
Don't hold your breath waiting to see this case come out. Not because of some cover up but based on the credibility she's established here,it's doubtful thatthe "incident" ever happened
Don't hold your breath waiting to see this case come out. Not because of some cover up but based on the credibility she's established here,it's doubtful thatthe "incident" ever happened
12-12-2006, 08:29 AM
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
Does anyone find it interesting that when a PGCrepresentative expressed an interest in investigating this "incident" we suddenly clammed up?
Don't hold your breath waiting to see this case come out. Not because of some cover up but based on the credibility she's established here,it's doubtful thatthe "incident" ever happened
Does anyone find it interesting that when a PGCrepresentative expressed an interest in investigating this "incident" we suddenly clammed up?
Don't hold your breath waiting to see this case come out. Not because of some cover up but based on the credibility she's established here,it's doubtful thatthe "incident" ever happened
12-12-2006, 09:30 AM
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
[quote]ORIGINAL: bearklr
I agree with Rob here. From what you stated they just wanted to check your pockets (by the way, this is common for them to do). Why should you be held to higher standards than any other male hunter just because you're a female. ....
NoI didn't clam up I don't feelI needed to defend my actions on a message board. That is until I read the above quote...what year do you think this is 1945???? I and every other female has EVERY right to request any search of my person by a female officer...ask an officer!
Don't embarass yourself thru ignorance of the law.
How would you like for your wife or sister to be pushed up against a tree told to spread them and have an "Officer of the Law" run his hands over her???????????? Yeah that's what I thought too!
I agree with Rob here. From what you stated they just wanted to check your pockets (by the way, this is common for them to do). Why should you be held to higher standards than any other male hunter just because you're a female. ....
NoI didn't clam up I don't feelI needed to defend my actions on a message board. That is until I read the above quote...what year do you think this is 1945???? I and every other female has EVERY right to request any search of my person by a female officer...ask an officer!
Don't embarass yourself thru ignorance of the law.
How would you like for your wife or sister to be pushed up against a tree told to spread them and have an "Officer of the Law" run his hands over her???????????? Yeah that's what I thought too!
12-12-2006, 09:57 AM
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
How would you like for your wife or sister to be pushed up against a tree told to spread them and have an "Officer of the Law" run his hands over her???????????? Yeah that's what I thought too!
he must check my pockets for ammo
12-12-2006, 10:41 AM
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
What difference would it make if she had a few shells in her pocket. If there were no firearm present there would be no violation.
Doesn't there have to be "Probable Cause" before an officer can conduct a search of one's person? What "Probable Cause" coulds she have displayed? Assaulting a deer with a stick?
Remember the MAT Commission's statement that the PGC is a Law Enforcement agency that does a little bit of Wildlife work.
Doesn't there have to be "Probable Cause" before an officer can conduct a search of one's person? What "Probable Cause" coulds she have displayed? Assaulting a deer with a stick?
Remember the MAT Commission's statement that the PGC is a Law Enforcement agency that does a little bit of Wildlife work.
12-12-2006, 12:03 PM
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
what he omits from his "logic" is the basic right to not have a male officer touch you as a female...and that I requested a female officer to do the pat down.
If he gets his kicks from watching another man run his hands over his wife'sjeans and into her pockets ...well I'll bet there's a peep hole or two in his bedroomcloset door too.
If he gets his kicks from watching another man run his hands over his wife'sjeans and into her pockets ...well I'll bet there's a peep hole or two in his bedroomcloset door too.
12-12-2006, 02:53 PM
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RE: A good story about our WCOs.
ORIGINAL: eagle chickie
what he omits from his "logic" is the basic right to not have a male officer touch you as a female...and that I requested a female officer to do the pat down.
If he gets his kicks from watching another man run his hands over his wife'sjeans and into her pockets ...well I'll bet there's a peep hole or two in his bedroomcloset door too.
what he omits from his "logic" is the basic right to not have a male officer touch you as a female...and that I requested a female officer to do the pat down.
If he gets his kicks from watching another man run his hands over his wife'sjeans and into her pockets ...well I'll bet there's a peep hole or two in his bedroomcloset door too.