Dealing with trespassers in New York
11-24-2006, 04:26 PM
#21
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Staten Island, NY
Posts: 361
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
I wouldn't let anyone hunt on my land either, because I am a hunter and that's the purpose of the land. If I wasn't a hunter, I would have no problem with it because I wouldn't care if some guy walked onto my land and shot a 10 pointer. But why allow someone else the chance to take that 10 on your land when you are a hunter?
11-26-2006, 07:46 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: auburn new york USA
Posts: 2,050
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
on my other property people where using my land as the shooting range for deer drives... i kicked them out but i guarantee they will be back[:@][:@][:@]but when they are ..i do know a few troopers cops...maybe a sheriff or two
i dont own the land but if i did and someone asked i would politely say no just because they spots are small enough for 3-4 guys like my parrty has
i dont own the land but if i did and someone asked i would politely say no just because they spots are small enough for 3-4 guys like my parrty has
11-26-2006, 12:40 PM
#23
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Montana
Posts: 309
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
Posting land creates more problems than it solves. It creates hard feelings among local hunters (especially when the person posting the land is not a "local"). I'm not saying it's right or wrong.... All I'm saying is that if land is posted, there are going to be problems. I think a better way is to post signs that say "Hunting with written permission only" and have your name and phone number on the sign. That sends a very different message than "No Hunting or Trespassing.....Violaters will be prosecuted", and signs with similar language.
Some friends have a hunting cabin that was being broken into continually and vandalized. They finally took the lock off the door and put a sign up that said, "You are welcome to use this cabin....please leave it as you found it". End of problems... Go figure. People are funny.
Also, remember that when you post property you are posting it from a lot of people who you may need something from some day. That person you turn down could very well be an EMT on the local volunteer ambulance or a volunteer fireman. Something to think about........
Some friends have a hunting cabin that was being broken into continually and vandalized. They finally took the lock off the door and put a sign up that said, "You are welcome to use this cabin....please leave it as you found it". End of problems... Go figure. People are funny.
Also, remember that when you post property you are posting it from a lot of people who you may need something from some day. That person you turn down could very well be an EMT on the local volunteer ambulance or a volunteer fireman. Something to think about........
11-26-2006, 01:02 PM
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Southeast PA
Posts: 1,490
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
Give me a break!! It's called respecting someone elses property!! Even if the land is not posted you still need permission by the land owner to hunt on the property!!
11-26-2006, 01:29 PM
#25
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Posts: 11,472
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
That person you turn down could very well be an EMT on the local volunteer ambulance or a volunteer fireman. Something to think about........
11-26-2006, 02:11 PM
#26
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 76
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
Maybe you need more names - some local groundswell to bring to the law. If there's community concern beyond just yours, maybe that'll help.
My neighbor recently caught some kids jacking deer the Wednesday before gun opener. In their strange bid to sound innocent, they bragged about another kid who's even TWICE as bad. (A 17 yr old pathological redneck who leaves the carcasses in the woods. Doesn't take meat, nothing.)
So, armed with this kids name he goes to the cops and DEC. The DEC asked permission to patrol his land. They said they'd been tipped to this kid before, on account of how bad he is.
So maybe get some names together, draft a group letter.
My neighbor recently caught some kids jacking deer the Wednesday before gun opener. In their strange bid to sound innocent, they bragged about another kid who's even TWICE as bad. (A 17 yr old pathological redneck who leaves the carcasses in the woods. Doesn't take meat, nothing.)
So, armed with this kids name he goes to the cops and DEC. The DEC asked permission to patrol his land. They said they'd been tipped to this kid before, on account of how bad he is.
So maybe get some names together, draft a group letter.
11-26-2006, 05:05 PM
#27
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Montana
Posts: 309
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
ORIGINAL: NY Bowhunter
So an EMT isn't going to care for me if he happens tobe called to an accident I may have because I didn't let him hunt the land I bought and pay taxes on? A firefighter is going to watch my house burn to the ground? Give me a break.
That person you turn down could very well be an EMT on the local volunteer ambulance or a volunteer fireman. Something to think about........
What I'm feeling here is that good old American greed......Posting land is nothing but a very selfish, self-centered act.
11-26-2006, 05:33 PM
#28
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 8,167
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
ORIGINAL: tatonka
What I'm feeling here is that good old American greed......Posting land is nothing but a very selfish, self-centered act.
What I'm feeling here is that good old American greed......Posting land is nothing but a very selfish, self-centered act.
Just maybe if you spent as much time at work as I do then you could pay the taxes on your own land , then you would not have to sneak onto mine !
11-26-2006, 05:37 PM
#29
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Staten Island, NY
Posts: 361
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
Tatonka, with all due respect, I don't see how you could say that and have ever owned land. If you did, you would udnerstand. It costs a LOT of money to own land nowadays, and if you care about it, it also requires a lot of upkeep. Owning land is no joke. It is 100% the equivelent of lending your car out. Not to mention the threat of lawsuits if someone gets hurt on your land, which almost anyone would turn around and sue EVERYONE nowadays to make a quick buck. Why should I, a landowner, local or not, pay taxes, a mortgage, and upkeep expenses, and then feel like a I have to allow other people to hunt on MY LAND or else be considered selfish? How is purchasing something, anything, and then expecting other people to respect your ownership of said item (land or not) a selfish act? If Joe Redneck living down the county road doesn't like that I am from the city and own "his" land, then he should have bought it before I did, or offered a higher price.
11-26-2006, 06:19 PM
#30
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
RE: Dealing with trespassers in New York
ORIGINAL: tatonka
Posting land creates more problems than it solves. It creates hard feelings among local hunters (especially when the person posting the land is not a "local"). I'm not saying it's right or wrong.... All I'm saying is that if land is posted, there are going to be problems. I think a better way is to post signs that say "Hunting with written permission only" and have your name and phone number on the sign. That sends a very different message than "No Hunting or Trespassing.....Violaters will be prosecuted", and signs with similar language.
Some friends have a hunting cabin that was being broken into continually and vandalized. They finally took the lock off the door and put a sign up that said, "You are welcome to use this cabin....please leave it as you found it". End of problems... Go figure. People are funny.
Also, remember that when you post property you are posting it from a lot of people who you may need something from some day. That person you turn down could very well be an EMT on the local volunteer ambulance or a volunteer fireman. Something to think about........
Posting land creates more problems than it solves. It creates hard feelings among local hunters (especially when the person posting the land is not a "local"). I'm not saying it's right or wrong.... All I'm saying is that if land is posted, there are going to be problems. I think a better way is to post signs that say "Hunting with written permission only" and have your name and phone number on the sign. That sends a very different message than "No Hunting or Trespassing.....Violaters will be prosecuted", and signs with similar language.
Some friends have a hunting cabin that was being broken into continually and vandalized. They finally took the lock off the door and put a sign up that said, "You are welcome to use this cabin....please leave it as you found it". End of problems... Go figure. People are funny.
Also, remember that when you post property you are posting it from a lot of people who you may need something from some day. That person you turn down could very well be an EMT on the local volunteer ambulance or a volunteer fireman. Something to think about........
well, they shot my doe, i went from 23 down to 7 deer..that was it, no more..THE NEW HUNTERS have no respect for anyhting, my neighbors kid calls it NO FEAR..