BOWHUNTERCOP

WHO FEELS THAT THE NJ FISH & GAME HAS GONE TO FAR WITH THIS UNLIMITED ANTLERLESS HUNTING SINCE THE 2000 SEASON?

BOWHUNTERCOP

I FEEL STATEWIDE, THAT THE NJ FISH & GAME HAS SUCCESFULLY LOWERED OUR DEER HERD FROM THE 2000 DEER SEASON TO THIS PRESENT DEER SEASON, AND THEY SHOULD OF STOPPED THE UNLIMITED HARVEST OF ANTLERLESS DEER, AND LONGER SEASONS THIS YEAR. WHO CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR THE HUNTER, OR THAT THEY SEE AS MANY DEER THIS YEAR AS THEY DID YEARS AGO? THEY WANT US TO SPEND MORE "$$$$$$" ABD THEY THEY KEEP SAYING WE NEED ACCESS TO PRIVATE LAND. THE PRIVATE LANDOWNER WHOS RICH ($$$$) COMPLAINES THAT THE DEER ARE EATING THERE LANDSCAPE, BUT IN RETURN WILL NOT ALLOW HUNTERS TO HUNT, SO THE STATE GAVE THEM THERE CAKE!! HERES A GOOD IDEA THE STATE SAID: LETS KILL 2 BIRDS WITH 1 STONE, UNLIMITED PERMITS, UNLIMITED ANTLERLESS DEER HARVEST, LONGER SEASONS= YES HUNTERS YOU GUESSED IT, THE ALL MIGHTY $$$$$$$!!!!! AND THEY MADE MR.RICH LANDOWNER HAPPY. WE HAVE ENOUGH HEADACHES WITH THE ANTI-HUNTERS, NOW THEY SEE TRUCKS/CARS WITH A FEW IF NOT MANY DEER ON THEM, TO ME THIS IS NOT DEER MANAGEMENT TOOL BUT A SLAUGHTER, AND THIS IS WHAT THE ANTIES WANT, NEGATIVE PICTURES, ACTIONS TOWARDS THE HUNTER. IM ALL FOR THE HARVEST FOR ANTLERLESS DEER, WHEN THE DEER HERD WAS LARGE FEW YEARS AGO, NOW IM NOT HARVESTING A ANTLERLESS DEER, I WILL DO MY PART TO CONSERVE WHATS LEFT OF IT. LETS THINK OF THE FUTURE OF NJ DEER HUNTING, AND NOT WHO CAN HARVEST THE MOST DEER. GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL!!!!

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BOWHUNTERCOP

NJBOWMEN, GET IN THERE FACE, GOTO THE MEETINGS, ASK QUESTIONS, I HAVE DONE ALL OF THIS AND I AGREE WITH YOU. BEING A COP, AND KNOWING A FEW OF THE CONSERVATION OFFICERS, AND THEY TELL ME ALSO THAT THE FIRST YEAR THE STATE IMPOSED THIS UNLIMITIED ANTLERLESS DEER HARVEST, EXTENDED SEASON, UNLIMITED PERMITS, IT WAS TO BE FOR 1 YEAR, MAYBE IF NEEDED 2 YEARS. BUT LIKE I SAID THEY SAW THE AMOUNT OF "$$$$$" BEING MADE, THE RICH LANDOWNER STARTED TO SMILE. THEY ARE FORCING THE HUNTER TO HARVEST A ANTLERLESS DEER. THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS: VOICE OUR CONCERN TO THE STATE, GOTO MEETING, WRITE LETTERS, ETC.

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BOWHUNTERCOP

3 FRIENDS WENT HUNTING THIS PAST SATURDAY (10-19) I WAS TOGO BUT COULDN'T GET OFF WORK. 1 FRIEND SAW 10 DEER, TO FAR FOR A SHOT, SO HE SAYS, LOL!! WHEN HE GOT BACK TO HIS TRUCK EARLY BECAUSE OF RAIN/WIND, CONVERSATION OFFICER PULLED UP, ASKED FOR LICENCE, THEN THEY STARTED "BSing" MY FRIEND ASKED HIM A QUESTION AS TO, WHY WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE NUMBER OF DEER HERE IN ZONE # 4 LIKE WE HAVE IN THE PAST? HES REPLY WAS "ASK THE EXPERTS IN TRENTON" 10 MINS LATER MY 2 OTHER FRIENDS PULLED UP, FEW MINUTES LATER A WOODCOCK HUNTER DROVE UP, AND TOLD THEM THAT A DOE RAN ACROSS THE ROAD, WITH WHAT LOOKED LIKE AN ARROW IN HER, SHE RAN INTO THE CORN FEILD. THEY WAITED 45 MINS OR SO, TO SEE IF THE HUNTER WAS TRACKING HER. WELL, NO HUNTER WAS TRACKING HER, SO THEY PICKED UP THE BLOOD TRAIL, SURE ENOUGH SHE WAS HIT WITH ARROW, IT ENTERED HER REAR LEG THRU THE BODY, OUT THE LUNGS. THEY TAGGED, GUTTED, CHECKED HER IN. THEY DID THE RIGHT THING. WELL TUESDAY/WEDNESDAY ARE MY 2 DAYS OFF THIS WEEK, SO FAR WEATHER LOOKS GREAT, SUNNY, HIGHS IN LOW 50's, HOPEFULLY NO WIND!!!!

Stealthy_Bowman

It has definitively gone too far. Next year will be the worst year yet as the true impact of these senseless regs will finally be fully apparant. There is no way they can implement these ridiculous regs for next season unless their intent is to reduce the heard to < 15 animals per square mile. Keep in mind that if deer densities fall below 40 animals per square mile (they are already way below that for most of NJ) your chances of just seeing deer are drastically reduced. I for one will be fighting tooth & nail at the public hearings this year to hammer out the game code for 2003/04. I urge all of you to do the same.
I've soooo had it with these regs! The other thing about the current game code is that it forces many law abiding hunters to break the law. I bet all of you know guys who check in the same doe among several friends just so everyone is compliant. The reason behind it being that people don't want to decimate the herd on their precious deer land. Furthermore, many hunters just think it's morally wrong to harvest more animals than they can consume. I don't know about you guys, but I was raised to respect wildlife and kill only what I and my family could consume, certainly not to go out and senselessly slaughter every deer I see.

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thndrchiken

Who knows, maybe this is part of the anti's plan to do away with hunting in NJ. It has been no secret that the state government has been against hunting for quite a few years now. Point is these are elected officials, aren't they supposed to work for their constituents? Now with Lautenberg back on the ticket, if he wins it will start to spell doom for our gun rights. I personally haven't hunted NJ since before I went into the service, and after I got out I hunt PA, mainly because in north NJ you hit the woods for firearm season and by the time you get to your spot there are usually so many other hunters around you your affraid to take a shot without hitting one of them or having to fight over who made the shot. The other reason is all of my hunting partners moved to PA, and besides for what it costs to hunt as a resident in NJ, it's only slightly higher in PA as a nonresident and there is a better chance of seeing a quality deer.

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ONCE AGAIN I AGREE, HARVEST 15 ANTLERLESS DEER, WHAT IN GODS NAME ARE WE TO DO WITH 15 DEER, 1 DEER FOR ME IS ENOUGH, BUT I JUST LOVE SEEING THEM IN WOODS, ITS A RUSH FOR ME. SO THE EXPERTS SAY IT WILL IMPROVE THE BUCKS, AND HEALTH OF THE DEER. I READ YEARS AGO THAT NJ'S DEER ARE VERY HEALTHY. I AGREE WITH "QDM" I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BETTER BUCKS, BUT TO HARVEST ANTLERLESS DEER THE WAY NJ FISH & GAME SAYS TO, ISNT WHAT I AGREE WITH, TO HAVE "QDM". GUYS WE KNOW IT BOILS DOWN TO "$$$$", TO BAD ALOT OF HUNTERS DONT SEE IT THIS WAY, THEY JUST WANT TO HARVEST DEER AT ANY EXPENSE. I SEE I KEEP USING THE WORD "HARVEST" I THINK I SHOULD USE THE WORD "KILL" WHEN TALKING ABOUT NJ'S FISH & GAME DEER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

I SEE IT LIKE THIS:

FALL BOW: 1 DEER EITHER SEX, ANY AGE, 2ND TAG WHEN CHECKED IN, EITHER SEX, ANY AGE NO EARLY SEASON, BACK TO LATE START LIKE LAST SATURDAY IN SEPTEMBER

PERMIT BOW: 1 DEER EITHER SEX, ANY AGE, 2ND TAG WHEN CHECKED IN, AGIAN EITHER SEX, ANY AGE SAME DATES AS PRESENT

MUZZLELOADER: 1 DEER EITHER SEX, ANY AGE, 2ND TAG WHEN CHECKED IN,
2ND DEER ANTLERLESS ONLY DATES SHOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE 7 THRU 12 DAYS DEPENDING ON ZONES

6 DAY SHOTGUN: 2 BUCKS ONLY SAME DATES ALLOW THE "YOUTH HUNT" TO TAKE PLACE AT THIS TIME... YOUTHS: 1 EITHER SEX, ANY AGE

PERMIT SHOTGUN: 1 DEER EITHER SEX, ANY AGE, 2ND DEER TAG WHEN CHECKED IN, AGAIN EITHER SEX, ANY AGE DATES SHOULD BE NO MORE THEN 7 DAYS DEPENDING ON ZONES

WINTER BOW: 1 DEER EITHER SEX, ANY AGE, 2ND TAG WHEN CHECKED IN, 1 DEER EITHER SEX, ANY AGE JANUARY ONLY

NO MORE LONG PERMIT SHOTGUN SEASONS, NO MORE HUNTING PAST JANUARY 31. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I TYPED OF QUICK, BUT ITS BASICALLY SAME DATES AS IN THE "GOOD OLD DAYS"!!! THOSE DAYS SEEM SO LONG AGO..GUYS WHAT ARE YOUR IDEAS TO A SEASON, DEER HARVEST, ETC? TYPE YOUR IDEAS AND POST IT.