Poll - Legal hunting age
09-28-2005, 11:12 AM
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09-28-2005, 11:39 AM
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
Hunting ages are a crock.
My son was ready at an early age to hunt safely. I see adults in the woods that are idiots.
I notice QS is still using infants as a slight on young hunters. It shows alot about his attitude and charector.
My son was ready at an early age to hunt safely. I see adults in the woods that are idiots.
I notice QS is still using infants as a slight on young hunters. It shows alot about his attitude and charector.
09-28-2005, 12:29 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
An infant is a minor, Charlie. A minor. The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has defined the term "infant" to mean a "legally dependent child." In layman's terms - a minor. Check the Juvenile Code if you don't believe me.
Come on guys, I'm giving you all an opportunity to convince me that infants belong in the deerwoods, and you're not doing a very good job of it. All I'm getting is blasted because I've provided an opposing viewpoint. None of your arguments have been very moving so far.
IMO infants shouldn't be carrying high-powered rifles.
Come on guys, I'm giving you all an opportunity to convince me that infants belong in the deerwoods, and you're not doing a very good job of it. All I'm getting is blasted because I've provided an opposing viewpoint. None of your arguments have been very moving so far.
IMO infants shouldn't be carrying high-powered rifles.
09-28-2005, 12:46 PM
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
i cant believe you are trying to defend your views qouting the archaic laws of the penn. game commission. please dont insult my intelligence, everyone knows when it comes to hunting pennsylvania is as backwards as it gets. and yes i live in pa so i can say i know what im talking about. my son is the main reason i hunt mostly in maryland.
most kids by the time they are 16 have no interest in hunting if they are not brought into the sport early. theyre main interest at that agr will be cars and girls. are you willing to lose our younger generation to other things because of your views? as iv said before kids are a joy to hunt with because they open your eyes to things we as older hunters take for granted. watching the excitement of a kid as he sees his first fox cross the field or as mallards start to circle your dekes is what this great sport is all about. try it once, just take a kid along and see the smile as he walks up to his first deer he just harvested and youl see what i mean
most kids by the time they are 16 have no interest in hunting if they are not brought into the sport early. theyre main interest at that agr will be cars and girls. are you willing to lose our younger generation to other things because of your views? as iv said before kids are a joy to hunt with because they open your eyes to things we as older hunters take for granted. watching the excitement of a kid as he sees his first fox cross the field or as mallards start to circle your dekes is what this great sport is all about. try it once, just take a kid along and see the smile as he walks up to his first deer he just harvested and youl see what i mean
09-28-2005, 05:36 PM
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
As much of you know, I am surrounded by liberals.When things are runned by liberals, things are bound to fail. Just give it time.
EXAMPLE:
I don't remember when it was, but there was a trapping bill passed in MA that forbade the use of certain traps. Now in the Boston area, beavers are F'ing up the place. Itis a real disaster and now everyone is going nuts that nothing can be done about it because of the bill. FYI - 90% of people that live in a 30 mile radius of Boston are diehard liberals, it is also where the bulk of the state's population is. Now you see what the power of a liberal mind can do.
JUST AN OBSERVATION OF THE CHARACTERISTIC.
There are a couple bills coming up this year to be voted on that will reverse the trapping bill. Hopefully they pass, but then again I would love to see the liberals eat their words.
EXAMPLE:
I don't remember when it was, but there was a trapping bill passed in MA that forbade the use of certain traps. Now in the Boston area, beavers are F'ing up the place. Itis a real disaster and now everyone is going nuts that nothing can be done about it because of the bill. FYI - 90% of people that live in a 30 mile radius of Boston are diehard liberals, it is also where the bulk of the state's population is. Now you see what the power of a liberal mind can do.
JUST AN OBSERVATION OF THE CHARACTERISTIC.
There are a couple bills coming up this year to be voted on that will reverse the trapping bill. Hopefully they pass, but then again I would love to see the liberals eat their words.
09-28-2005, 05:53 PM
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
i cant believe you are trying to defend your views qouting the archaic laws of the penn. game commission. please dont insult my intelligence
09-28-2005, 07:38 PM
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
There's no place for the "we need to get kids into hunting" argument when we're discussing safety. They either get it, or they don't. A 12 year old, "doesn't get it," if you ask me.
What are you basing your opinion on?
09-28-2005, 07:57 PM
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
Supervised -- no specific age limit.
Unsupervised -- parents discretion.
They should be required to pass hunter education.
I also support special " youth " hunts.
If an age limit is established on hunting, then a similar limit should be established on allowing anti hunting factions pushing their agenda.
Unsupervised -- parents discretion.
They should be required to pass hunter education.
I also support special " youth " hunts.
If an age limit is established on hunting, then a similar limit should be established on allowing anti hunting factions pushing their agenda.
09-28-2005, 09:40 PM
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
Charlie - I'm basing my opinion on what I did when I was 12, and what the kids in my family do when they're 12 years old. I've taken plenty of kids hunting. The fact is that they are wholly unable to appreciate the danger and power that they're holding in their hands. They walk around with the muzzle pointing all over the place, they don't know how to handle an emergency situation. They get so excited when they see a deer, that they just point and fire. These aren't first-timers, these are kids that have been shooting BB guns and .22's since they were six.
I've hunted in states with no age limit, and it's disgraceful. I saw a kid not a day over 8, 50 pounds soaking wet, shoot a deer, with no adults around. Sure he was happy, but he was totally helpless. Igut the thing, and dragged it out for him. All the while, it occurs to me:why does an 8-year-old need to be out there? Shouldn't this kid be playing basketball or soccer? This isn't just about kids being unsafe, it's about good parenting.
Obviously, if you're standing over a kid, watching his every move, you can keep him from shooting another person, or a farm animal. That's pretty simple. The fact is, unfortunately, that not all derelict parents do that. Some view that "Hunters' Safety Card" as a license to kill - carte blanche. Just because they took the kid to the rifle range one day, they say "Hey Junior, you watch that way, and I'll be over on this hill watching the other side. If you need anything, just come over and get me..." Fill in the rest of the story.
IMO, if you have to stand over them, it's probably because they'rea danger to themselves and othersif left alone. Sometimes the truth hurts, but as I've said in the past, and I'll say it again. "The Simplest Solution is Sometimes the Best Solution." We live in a nation full of horrible parents, and sadly, sometimes the rights of the good must be trampled in the name of safety.
I've hunted in states with no age limit, and it's disgraceful. I saw a kid not a day over 8, 50 pounds soaking wet, shoot a deer, with no adults around. Sure he was happy, but he was totally helpless. Igut the thing, and dragged it out for him. All the while, it occurs to me:why does an 8-year-old need to be out there? Shouldn't this kid be playing basketball or soccer? This isn't just about kids being unsafe, it's about good parenting.
Obviously, if you're standing over a kid, watching his every move, you can keep him from shooting another person, or a farm animal. That's pretty simple. The fact is, unfortunately, that not all derelict parents do that. Some view that "Hunters' Safety Card" as a license to kill - carte blanche. Just because they took the kid to the rifle range one day, they say "Hey Junior, you watch that way, and I'll be over on this hill watching the other side. If you need anything, just come over and get me..." Fill in the rest of the story.
IMO, if you have to stand over them, it's probably because they'rea danger to themselves and othersif left alone. Sometimes the truth hurts, but as I've said in the past, and I'll say it again. "The Simplest Solution is Sometimes the Best Solution." We live in a nation full of horrible parents, and sadly, sometimes the rights of the good must be trampled in the name of safety.
09-28-2005, 10:12 PM
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RE: Poll - Legal hunting age
I'm sure your point could be counter pointed by many parents who's 12 yr old kids CAN handle a weapon under any hunting circumstance as well as any adult hunter. The world doesn't start and end in your neck of the woods. There is a broad spectrum of young hunters out there in other parts/regions of this country that I have hunted with from 13-16 yrs of age that are fully capable of unsupervised hunting activities - Granted there are many that are NOT.
I would not attempt to compare the abilities of a 10-16 yr old in NY,NJ,Balt Md,Wash DC,Pitts Pa etc... etc... to that of a kid of same age group in the deep south or even remote areas of the west.Some of these kids put food on the table for the family! You do not make such destinction or allowances. Your Black and White - Tunnel Vision. Fine.
Seems your on a fishing expedition to justify your own view on how the world should be - Hey thats fine and dandy.
BTW back on topic for the poll
I choose none of the above
I would not attempt to compare the abilities of a 10-16 yr old in NY,NJ,Balt Md,Wash DC,Pitts Pa etc... etc... to that of a kid of same age group in the deep south or even remote areas of the west.Some of these kids put food on the table for the family! You do not make such destinction or allowances. Your Black and White - Tunnel Vision. Fine.
Seems your on a fishing expedition to justify your own view on how the world should be - Hey thats fine and dandy.
BTW back on topic for the poll
I choose none of the above