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Old 08-22-2005, 12:33 PM
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OK, you are talking about PUBLIC land. Also, I see the point about antler restrictions increasing the number of poachers because some people would still shoot any buck that comes along,but it would still decreasethe number of small bucks killed becausemost people obey the law. Also,if WV imposed AR's, anyone from PA who now goes to WV just to shoot any young buck wouldn't be so inclined to go to WV for the same restrictions they have back in PA. If they became poachers by ignoring the AR law, they can do it in PA without having to got to WV.
..and save the O/S lic fees !!!
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:35 PM
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Yep, that too!
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Old 08-22-2005, 02:17 PM
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..two more nice bucks dropped this weekend @ night.... permit kills in the orchard... this is insane... wonder why you never see big 'uns?
Don't get me started on those crop damage permits Rem 1100. That is another crock of mismanagement. No bucks should be able to be killed on damage permits. Also, any landowner that receives damage permits should have to register his land with the DNR as "Open" to hunting by request and those lands should be published by the dnr and granted access to by hunters. Perhaps they could have sign in sheets or something (kind of like Montana's block management lands). It is not right to have posted land given damage permits. Give the hunters a chance to alleviate the damage.

I also like the idea of non resident landowners (meeting a minimum requirement of acreage) having a special licensing structure and feel they should be guaranteed licenses and at a cheaper rate than regular non-residents. I do feel however that regular non-residents should be in a lottery and have higher prices, and while I know that non-resident hunters support businesses when they come to town, I don't feel that these businesses are dependent on non resident huntingdollars to survive, like businesses in the west that are in destination hunting areas. Most of non res hunters coming to WV are pretty frugal, I would say, with their discretionary spending, or they would probably be going somewhere else.
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Old 08-23-2005, 06:59 AM
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The last time my boss got crop damage stamps, he was informed by the DNR that ONLY does could be harvested. I wonder if that is the way it is statewide or does it vary?

Now my boss does allow hunters to hunt his farm, but he still requires crop damage stamps from time to time. The past two years he has not needed to get any.

I agree that only farmers who allow some form of hunting on their property should be the only ones to get crop damage stamps. These things wouldn't need to be issued if the farmers would allow hunting on their property. I understand that some farmers have had bad experiences from people riding their fences down, shooting their cattle to dumping garbage. But not all of us our like that, but I guess it is like the old saying one bad apple can ruin the it for the rest of us.
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Old 08-23-2005, 05:41 PM
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the thing about allowing hunting on your prop.. is liability...plain and simple.. that's a BIG reason farmers don't want anyone on their land. Lawyers can reap havoc, in case noones' noticed....
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:10 AM
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I agree with Hillbilly but I also understand what Rem1100 is saying, but Rems statement about liability could be bypassedifhunting consent stipulates that the land owner is not responsible for hnter safety. It is done all the time by outfitters taking hunters in to hunt.
In my county (Jefferson) farmers kill far more deer than permits they have and also shoot bucks, which is not supposed to be done. I have heard stories where farmers shoot deer and drag them to woodlots to pile up. And these are the people that vehemently oppose Sunday hunting.

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..the 2 I spoke of were killed there....
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:05 AM
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If the dnr and landowners would cooperate they could easily issue waivers for all hunters to sign thereby relieving the landowner of any liability, but that's a big "if" I guess. Meanwhile, Jim, you and Rem1100, and soon me too, hopefully won't have to worry about the lack of Sunday hunting in Jefferson Co. I know some people involved in politics there and they have told me that that is one thing not to worry about--- Sunday hunting referendum showing up at the ballot box---I hope they're right
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:13 AM
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Judging from the way it got shot down at the ballot box before in numerous counties, it's not showing up on the ballot that I'd worry, about, but GETTING PASSED!
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:27 AM
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Actually,
You've got it backwards Doug. The State Passed the law that ALLOWED Sunday Hunting, Then many of the counties passed their own referendums to dis-allow hunting on Sundays in that particular county. Therefore, if the county never votes on it, it is automatic that Sunday hunting continues to be allowed. Of course we all know that most counties have overturned the state law (shows how adamant a lot of the people were---which is crazy IMO). The guys I was talking about told me that the referendum would never appear in Jefferson county (thats what I meant earlier, thus Sunday hunting will continue to be allowed.
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