Some Crazy stuff here
03-21-2004, 05:22 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Some Crazy stuff here
i kno this isnt the region it belongs on but i want everyone to see this:
Article written by Barry and Pegi MacCartney in The Journal News, Rockland County Edition
"How many police officers does it take to kill a 350 pound black bear?Thats our question in response to the Dec. 25th article- "Police fatally shot bear after it kills dog." In New Jersey, it takes three--- two from Kinnelon and one from Bloomingdale and 23 rounds from assorted weapons. We all know a friend, family member or know of a good sized athlete who weighs 350 pounds. Should police start carrying bigger weapons, say .50 caliber machine guns or 20mm cannons? According to the Associated Press report published in The Journal News, which chose to print the story on Christmas day, the bear( while trying to protect the safety of its den) had fatally mauled a Yorkshire terrier, a dog the size of a rabbit. Police were summoned and after arriving the scene, Officer Jeffrey Pinksaw and Officer Sean Pataliata of the Kennelon Police Department and Officer Neil Keegstra of the Bloomingdale Police Department were face wiht a difficult decision. Is the bear aggressive or not? One would have to asume that it was by a joint decision by the police officers that the bear was determined to be a threat to the community. That decision gave them the authority to kill it. How-ever, according to the news story, the bear became agitated only after Keegstra shot the bear in the eye with a single shot blast from his 20-gauge shotgun. Patalita, who possessed a larger 12 gauge shot might have been able to stop the bear with one shot, but for some reason did not discarge that weapon. We certainly can understand the bear becoming "agitated" after getting a spray of bb's in the eye. Keegstra fired two more 20 gauge rounds into the bear. The bear then went after Pinksaw, who quickly drew his weapon and emptied 14 rounds from his 9mm handgun into the bear. That caused the bear to stumble and fall. The bear then managed to get up and run (?) toward the deck, where Patalita determined it was time to finish the animal off with three rounds from his 12 gauge shotgun. Tf you've been counting along, that's a total of 23 rounds. Couldn't this have been a quick kill rather than the slow,unnecessary, torturous death. Could the bear have been tranquilized and removed?You decide. If it had to be destroyed, how about an accurate take down shot or shots from police officers trained to do this sort of thing? Skilled hunters train and take down animals with a single shot to prevent unnecessary suffering. And on another note, just how longdid it take The Journal News readers to erase the image from their minds on Christmas day of the bloody, one-eyed, bullet riddled dead bear. It was later discovered that the animal, suffering from seasonal depression, had recently been released from a local zoo, was hopped up on mind-altering drugs and was wearing full body armor under his fur coat. The bear had expected to go out in a final blaze of glory, according to the note found in its den.
Article written by Barry and Pegi MacCartney in The Journal News, Rockland County Edition
"How many police officers does it take to kill a 350 pound black bear?Thats our question in response to the Dec. 25th article- "Police fatally shot bear after it kills dog." In New Jersey, it takes three--- two from Kinnelon and one from Bloomingdale and 23 rounds from assorted weapons. We all know a friend, family member or know of a good sized athlete who weighs 350 pounds. Should police start carrying bigger weapons, say .50 caliber machine guns or 20mm cannons? According to the Associated Press report published in The Journal News, which chose to print the story on Christmas day, the bear( while trying to protect the safety of its den) had fatally mauled a Yorkshire terrier, a dog the size of a rabbit. Police were summoned and after arriving the scene, Officer Jeffrey Pinksaw and Officer Sean Pataliata of the Kennelon Police Department and Officer Neil Keegstra of the Bloomingdale Police Department were face wiht a difficult decision. Is the bear aggressive or not? One would have to asume that it was by a joint decision by the police officers that the bear was determined to be a threat to the community. That decision gave them the authority to kill it. How-ever, according to the news story, the bear became agitated only after Keegstra shot the bear in the eye with a single shot blast from his 20-gauge shotgun. Patalita, who possessed a larger 12 gauge shot might have been able to stop the bear with one shot, but for some reason did not discarge that weapon. We certainly can understand the bear becoming "agitated" after getting a spray of bb's in the eye. Keegstra fired two more 20 gauge rounds into the bear. The bear then went after Pinksaw, who quickly drew his weapon and emptied 14 rounds from his 9mm handgun into the bear. That caused the bear to stumble and fall. The bear then managed to get up and run (?) toward the deck, where Patalita determined it was time to finish the animal off with three rounds from his 12 gauge shotgun. Tf you've been counting along, that's a total of 23 rounds. Couldn't this have been a quick kill rather than the slow,unnecessary, torturous death. Could the bear have been tranquilized and removed?You decide. If it had to be destroyed, how about an accurate take down shot or shots from police officers trained to do this sort of thing? Skilled hunters train and take down animals with a single shot to prevent unnecessary suffering. And on another note, just how longdid it take The Journal News readers to erase the image from their minds on Christmas day of the bloody, one-eyed, bullet riddled dead bear. It was later discovered that the animal, suffering from seasonal depression, had recently been released from a local zoo, was hopped up on mind-altering drugs and was wearing full body armor under his fur coat. The bear had expected to go out in a final blaze of glory, according to the note found in its den.
04-05-2004, 10:01 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wheaton Minnesota USA
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RE: Some Crazy stuff here
This is for bowshooter all i can say is don't judge the lot with steriotypical remarks of sheer stupidity for the actions of a few. It just amazes me that eveyone pi%$#@ and moans about everything bad that goes wrong with an incident and even complains when everythign was done exactley to the book like they're suppose to, and I agree the guy with the 12 should've stepped up and taken the bear down with the larger caliber to ensure it didn't suffer but he didn't. That was a bad decision on his part and I think that the officers should be punished by the department administration. But don't go say stupid S%$# like "For every shot they shoot they recive a free dount!!" that's so fricken childish all I gotta say is grow up!!!!!
