Brightyhunting

G'Day Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am an avid hound hunter in the souther regions of Victoria Australia. We hunt the mighty Sambar deer by using scent trailing hounds and a crew of roughly 10 blokes. In basic terms we drive around in the State Forests very slowly looking for fresh deer tracks on the side of the roads. When we find one that appears to be fresh enough, we then track around that area to try and establish roughly where the deer is. We then put blokes out in positions that we believe it is likely the deer will run, either from previous experience or due to the topography. We then put one hound on the marks, he is known as the cold trailing dog and he will follow the cold scent into the bush, voicing every 3 - 5 minutes as he hits patches of scent. When his voicing becomes more consistant and closer together we will then let another 4 dogs go. They will straight line it to the voice of the cold trailing dog and by the time they reach him the deer is probably up and running and the whole pack will start singing to their hearts content. I tell you your hair would stand up on end if you heard the noise the pack makes as they chase the deer. The guys who are out in position try to read where the hounds are haeded and get well in front of them so as to try and shoot the deer. If the deer gets out of the area then everyone piles into vehicles and drive like mad men as the chase is truly on. Either one of three things happen. Someone gets out in front and in the right position and shoots the deer. The deer bails up in a river or dam and someone walks in to shoot it. This could require a 5 km walk in thick scrub to get there but trust me, its worth the effort to see a pack of hounds holding a 350kg stag in position, ducking around hooves and antlers as the stag tries to do them mortal damage. Finally the deer may get out to an area we cant hunt or are not allowed to and the dogs are pulled off. This last one happens about a third of the time, the deer wins.

Its a fantastic hunt thats full of adrenaline and takes part in some of the most pristine wilderness that Australia has to offer. The Sambar are considered to be the worlds number one premiere Deer species. Now comes the interesting part. For the last 40 yers or so we mainly used Fox Hounds to hunt the sambar with. However the rat bag fringe element started cross breeding with ridgebacks etc and the hounds started pulling down and killing the deer rather than just holding them in the bail. You always get some idiots that f--k things up dont you!! After some unfortunate video footage was aired in public the Government reacted by restricting the hounds that could be used to hunt sambar to either pure bred Beagles or Bloodhounds. The problem with Beagles is their size. they are great little hunters but with a maximum allowable size of 45 cm they can not keep up with what can regualrly be a hunt that covers over 30km. The poor little buggers just knock themselves up trying. The problem with Bloodhounds is that we have no hunting bloodlines here in Australia, only show dogs and it will take several years of breeding to get anything that remotely hunts as well as our fox hounds did.

This is where I need help. I have noticed that the only two states that allow the hunting of deer with hounds are Alabama and Missisipi. I'm not sure what species you hunt or how the hunts are run but what I would really like is to get hold of a couple of good hunting bitches that could be put in pup to a proven dog and then shipped here to Australia. The best match for what we need to use is the Red Bone Coon Hound. It looks ebough like a bloodhound to pass the tests put in place for registering a hound for hunting and then when cross bred with our existing Bloodhounds, the progeny will definitely pass as bloodhounds and will then contain that hunting blood line.

What can I offer? I am more than happy to pay a reasonable price for two bitches in pup. A friend of mine owns the Rio Bonito Game Ranch in Texas and because he has been in the states for more than two years, he can send the two bitches over as pets with no Quaranteen time in America and a vastly cheaper airfare. They would have to be in Quaranteen for 6 weeks here in Australia but thats no great issue. I can also offer you a lifetime right to hunt over the hounds on the sambar deer as well as stalking them andd many other species. You would be welcome to stay at my place and would have access to a 4wd and varius rifles for as long as you wanted to stay. The bitches would have an excellent home and would be allowed to hunt deer for the rest of their lives. Given that your right to hunt deer over hounds is continually under threat in the USA, this would be an excellent way for you to ensure the best hunting home possible for your hounds as well as the ability to hunt into the future. Hound hunting crews in Australia are notoriously difficult to get to hunt with. They are basically closed shops. You would have the right, with a couple of your friends, to hunt with my crew in the alps for no cost and with everything you need supplied such as food, swags, rifles etc.

To justify the expense of bringing them over the two bitches would need to be proven quality hunters although they could be older bitches with a few years left in them as its really the pups we are after and the Botches could then help train them. If anyone is interested at all, please email me at [email protected]. I look forward to hearing from you

Paul Bright
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timbercruiser

Many years ago I looked into shipping a stud greyhound to Australia. It was very expensive, the dog had to stay in quarantine in Hawaii for a long period and flights like that aren't real good on a dog (heat - cold in the cargo hold of a high altitude plane). I doubt a bred female would carry pups thru the flight/quarantine.Use to when I used dogs, myfavorite deer dogs were blueticks and black & tans.

Brightyhunting

Timbercruiser, I have contacted quarantine and so long as the dog has been a pet of a mate of mine in Texas for at least two years then the quarantine period in America is waved and they only need to be quarantined in Australia for a shorter period of time. This is the method that I am planning to use. I agree that if you just try to import normally then the restrictions are huge. The airfare if the dogs are brought back to Australia with my mate are only $150 compared to about $1600 if by themselves.

I'm a bit surprised that I have not got much in the way of responses. Our hound hunting for sambar deer is the biggest adrenaline rush you will ever come accross and is an action packed hunt. I am completely serious about importing the two bitches and I am prepared to make it financially rewarding to whoever helps, if that is what they want.

Anyway, i look forward to talking with more of you in the near future

Brightyhunting

Brightyhunting

Hello??? Anyone out there?? Surely someone should be able to help or at least point me in the right direction.

Brightyhunting

hycohounds

not many people dog hunt on this board. plus, there are not many redbone deer hounds. most of our hounds are either foxhound type or beagles. some cross beagles with tree dogs. there are different types just depends on the part of the country your in. in the carolinas and virg. i understand that smaller dogs rule. down here in florida we like leggy foxhounds. i know someone that hunts with just about every breed except redbone..........tony