Lock-on treestands
01-01-2010, 03:48 PM
#1
Spike
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Lock-on treestands
Does anyone produce a 'lock-on' treestand that doesn't use cables to support the foot platform? I ask b/c my 61 yr old father will not use one (mine) due to his bad knees and having to step over the cables to enter the stand; even if it's in a primo spot.
01-01-2010, 06:41 PM
#3
Nontypical Buck
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Not to be disrespectful, but to be more accurate, it sounds more like he doesn't have confidence in the cable. If so, I can understand that. Many years ago I recall looking at those thin cables and wondering "Those little cables are suppose to hold me while I'm 20ft. up a tree?" LOL!
Solocamcan had a idea, but instead of "lowering" the stand, just add one or two more steps and step down on the stand. You're suppose to do this anyway as it's more safe.
Loc-On treestand company went out of business, but then was back in the game! Look up "Loc-On" treestands. They have some models where the floor platform isn't help up by cable.
iSnipe
Solocamcan had a idea, but instead of "lowering" the stand, just add one or two more steps and step down on the stand. You're suppose to do this anyway as it's more safe.
Loc-On treestand company went out of business, but then was back in the game! Look up "Loc-On" treestands. They have some models where the floor platform isn't help up by cable.
iSnipe
01-01-2010, 06:50 PM
#4
Giant Nontypical
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yes....it's called a ladderstand.
Get him a ladderstand with a big platform, shooting rail, arm rests, flip up seat, and he'll feel like he's sitting in a lazyboy up there!
IMO ladderstands are a safer treestand, I really would like some in depth specifics on hunters who fall/die from treestand use.
Get him a ladderstand with a big platform, shooting rail, arm rests, flip up seat, and he'll feel like he's sitting in a lazyboy up there!
IMO ladderstands are a safer treestand, I really would like some in depth specifics on hunters who fall/die from treestand use.
01-01-2010, 06:59 PM
#5
Nontypical Buck
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Reading the post again, I'll have to agree on the ladderstand recommendation. I use them too and it's nice hunting out of them as you get ultimate feeling of security having 2 arm rests and a shooting rail in front of you.
The only complaint I have about them is sometimes I'd like to spread my knees apart to stretch and be comfortable... and most stands I see and use don't allow enough room to do that.
You know, Al Bundy style:
iSnipe
The only complaint I have about them is sometimes I'd like to spread my knees apart to stretch and be comfortable... and most stands I see and use don't allow enough room to do that.
You know, Al Bundy style:
iSnipe
01-01-2010, 07:10 PM
#6
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Reading the post again, I'll have to agree on the ladderstand recommendation. I use them too and it's nice hunting out of them as you get ultimate feeling of security having 2 arm rests and a shooting rail in front of you.
The only complaint I have about them is sometimes I'd like to spread my knees apart to stretch and be comfortable... and most stands I see and use don't allow enough room to do that.
You know, Al Bundy style:
iSnipe
The only complaint I have about them is sometimes I'd like to spread my knees apart to stretch and be comfortable... and most stands I see and use don't allow enough room to do that.
You know, Al Bundy style:
iSnipe
01-01-2010, 09:35 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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I'm not a big fan of ladder stands, strictly because of height restrictions. I like to be 20+ feet high and a lock-on, permanent stand or my self climber, allows me to do just that.
The point made about stepping down into the stand is valid. You must always put your steps 3-4 feet above the actual stand and step down into it. It's not only safer but also much easier. The cables are then not much of a factor. You and your Dad can practice this at much lower heights.
I also use my self climber and cables are never an issue here. Most climbers today are designed to climb in a sitting position. Also very safe.
Just so you know, I hunt from a treestand 90% of the time. I also have a knee that acts up, from too many hockey games over the years and I happen to be older than your Dad. If he can find a setup that he feels comfortable and safe, that would be great. If not, let him make that decision.
Good Luck!
The point made about stepping down into the stand is valid. You must always put your steps 3-4 feet above the actual stand and step down into it. It's not only safer but also much easier. The cables are then not much of a factor. You and your Dad can practice this at much lower heights.
I also use my self climber and cables are never an issue here. Most climbers today are designed to climb in a sitting position. Also very safe.
Just so you know, I hunt from a treestand 90% of the time. I also have a knee that acts up, from too many hockey games over the years and I happen to be older than your Dad. If he can find a setup that he feels comfortable and safe, that would be great. If not, let him make that decision.
Good Luck!
Last edited by Jimmy S; 01-01-2010 at 09:38 PM.
01-02-2010, 01:15 AM
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I have 2 summits that are hang ons. I think they are called copper heads. They utilize a completely different system than the cable system. I dont think they are available anymore, but you might be able to find them used.
These guys make a ladderstand that goes almost 18 feet. http://www.gomuddy.com/shopping/Depa...DER-STAND.aspx
They also make a very nice and lighweight harness. http://www.gomuddy.com/shopping/Depa...d-Harness.aspx
If you are looking for a comfortable and wide stand that goes 20 feet take a look at this one.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...233&hasJS=true
Heres a 22 foot ladder, although it doesnt look as nice as the XL.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...0068162418892a
These guys make a ladderstand that goes almost 18 feet. http://www.gomuddy.com/shopping/Depa...DER-STAND.aspx
They also make a very nice and lighweight harness. http://www.gomuddy.com/shopping/Depa...d-Harness.aspx
If you are looking for a comfortable and wide stand that goes 20 feet take a look at this one.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...233&hasJS=true
Heres a 22 foot ladder, although it doesnt look as nice as the XL.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...0068162418892a
01-02-2010, 06:50 AM
#9
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I'm not a big fan of ladder stands, strictly because of height restrictions. I like to be 20+ feet high and a lock-on, permanent stand or my self climber, allows me to do just that.
The point made about stepping down into the stand is valid. You must always put your steps 3-4 feet above the actual stand and step down into it. It's not only safer but also much easier. The cables are then not much of a factor. You and your Dad can practice this at much lower heights.
I also use my self climber and cables are never an issue here. Most climbers today are designed to climb in a sitting position. Also very safe.
Just so you know, I hunt from a treestand 90% of the time. I also have a knee that acts up, from too many hockey games over the years and I happen to be older than your Dad. If he can find a setup that he feels comfortable and safe, that would be great. If not, let him make that decision.
Good Luck!
The point made about stepping down into the stand is valid. You must always put your steps 3-4 feet above the actual stand and step down into it. It's not only safer but also much easier. The cables are then not much of a factor. You and your Dad can practice this at much lower heights.
I also use my self climber and cables are never an issue here. Most climbers today are designed to climb in a sitting position. Also very safe.
Just so you know, I hunt from a treestand 90% of the time. I also have a knee that acts up, from too many hockey games over the years and I happen to be older than your Dad. If he can find a setup that he feels comfortable and safe, that would be great. If not, let him make that decision.
Good Luck!