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Anyone used the combo rangefinder/binocs such as Bushnell Quest or the Leupolds?? I'm thinking of those versus a separate rangefinder & binocular to cut down on weight, time, fumbling with 2 different items, etc.....Any loss of quality with either if you combine as one unit??

I also placed this thread on the optics page, but realize not as many utilize it....
Thanks in advance
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Avalanche

I have the Bushnell Quest and really like it. The only draw back is that it's a bit heavy, but the optics are great as well as the rangefinder. They are rugged as well. I would highly recomend them.

BTM

Here's my review of the Wind River.

Gear Report: Wind River RB 800 Laser Rangefinder – Binocular
I’m a big believer in rangefinders. When bowhunting, for any shot past 20-25 yards an error of more than a few yards can mean a miss or —even worse— a bad hit. When rifle hunting across canyons or other deceptive terrain, it helps one’s confidence to know exactly how much to hold over. Equally as important, they’re great for improving your estimating skills in the off-season.
For the last six years I’ve owned two different Bushnell rangefinders. They were fine for determining distances, but the cheapo 4X monocular left a lot to be desired, especially during the dim first and last hour of the day when hunting is best. Because carrying binoculars and a rangefinder around my neck was clumsy, noisy, and heavy, I usually ended up toting just the rangefinder. (Anyone want a good price on nearly new binos?) Until recently, your only option for quality optics in a rangefinder was the Leica Geovid, a $3,000 unit that weighed a hefty three pounds. Bushnell came out with a $600 rangefinder/bino about two years ago, but it was bulky, heavy (34 oz.), and the lenses were etched with distracting graphics, so I waited for something better. When Wind River, a subsidiary of trusted optics manufacturer Leupold, introduced the 8x32RB 800, I soon ordered one from Cabela’s.
Unlike magazine reviews on this unit, which were little more than glorified press releases, this report is based on four different hunts (javelina, wild boar, caribou, and elk) over the last year. Let’s start with the positives.
PROS: It’s light; only 23 oz. sans strap.
It’s claimed to be waterproof, and although I didn’t leave it in a stream overnight, it functioned fine through several days of cold rain in Wyoming.
My eyes aren’t good enough to pass judgment on the optical quality, but an eagle-eyed friend of mine gave them a thumbs up.
Unlike my Bushnells, the reticle actually points to the same spot as the laser.
It reads accurately to within one yard (the Bushnells always indicated one yard short of actual). It works reliably at over 600 yards, although I’ve occasionally obtained readings at almost 1,000 yards.
The rubber armor prevents game-spooking noise when it touches shirt buttons, game calls, or knapsack buckles.
The neoprene strap is one of the best I’ve ever seen; wide, soft, and very comfortable.
The readout shuts off after ten seconds, thereby increasing battery life. A battery life warning flashes when juice is low. (I’d prefer a gauge that indicates charge across the entire range from new to empty, but an idiot light is better than nothing.) The buttons are fairly easy to push, even with gloves on.
Each eyecup is individually focused, and detents keep them in locked in place. (No more constantly fiddling with focus.)
NEUTRAL: The red LED readout is easier to read in low light than the black LCD of my Bushnells, but harder to see mid-day. (I think it’s a good trade-off.)
It operates on one SF123A 3-volt lithium battery (same as used in Surefire flashlights), which isn’t available at every 7-11 store, but it lasts quite a while.
I’d prefer 8x40s for slightly better low light visibility, but the 8x32 configuration of this unit worked pretty well.
It comes with a nice hard case, but it won’t close over the rangefinder with the strap attached, so why did Leupold even bother?
The cost is $700, but that was worth it to me to have a single unit with good glass and rangefinding capability. For another $100 you can get a built-in electronic compass, but I saw no need for it when I already had a much cheaper, non-battery dependent compass in my pocket.
CONS: No lens caps! Whose brilliant idea was that? After all, they must cost the princely sum of maybe five cents apiece! What’s the point of having a waterproof unit if you can’t keep rain off the lens? (I’ll need to get some scrap plastic make a one-piece unit that slides down the straps and covers both eyecups like Pentax and other brands. It won’t look pretty, but it’ll work.) For the cost of the useless hard case Leupold could’ve afforded a whole pile of decent lens caps.
Once the unit shuts off, you have to wait several seconds before taking another reading. (This probably won’t affect you during a hunt, but you need to allow for it when walking around practicing your estimating skills.)
Even with the eyecups fully extended, the top of my nose would sometimes brush against the bottom of the unit. Once I was absolutely sure I was going to keep the unit (Cabela’s has a great return policy) I used a half-round file to shave away a little material. This worked fine for me, whose schnoz is slightly larger than average, but you may be out of luck if your last name is Onassis or Durante.
Occasionally the yards/meter button will get pushed accidentally, but observing the readout will tip you off to this. (This also happened on my Bushnells, and one time even resulted in me making a low hit. Fortunately I still recovered the deer.) Jingoistic side comment: This is Amurica, dammit! We use good ol’ yards here; we don’t need no stinking meters!
It reads about 3% long (i.e., 21 yards at an actual 20, 62 at an actual 60, etc.). This may not be a big deal for a rifle hunter, but for a western bowhunter who sometimes takes longer shots, this could be a factor. Besides, for $700 it should be dead on!
After about eight months, I noticed that the batteries didn’t seem to last long. On my September elk trip, I had to change the batteries almost weekly, even though I hadn’t used it much. On my January hog hunt (one year after purchase), I was putting in a new battery on a daily basis. On my February bison hunt, it failed me completely at the worst possible time (right before the shot). I returned it to Leupold, and a week later they sent me a brand new one. The only problem with it is that it indicates one yard longer than actual.
About 16 months later it started eating batteries again, this time on an Alaska Brown Bear hunt! I put in a new battery just as we left the beach and headed inland on a fresh track. Ten minutes later I used it to laser a bruin and shoot it at 33 yards. This was the most crucial, expensive, and potentially dangerous shot of my life. What would’ve been the outcome had I not put in a brand new battery? Leupold got a pretty pointed letter from me soon thereafter, and sent me a new rangefinder two weeks later.
CONCLUSION: The Wind River RB 800 has been just about perfect for me 99% of the time, but the other 1% has been very troublesome. For this reason, I cannot recommend it to others. .

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BTM,
Thanks for the informative post. I was wondering if anyone had these!