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Old 01-26-2005, 01:40 PM
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Kelbro, I am not a basher of Benelli. I just didn't think that comparing an 1187 to a M2 or SBE2 is a fair comparison. I like the SBE with the pistol grip. I think it would be great for turkey hunting. But I wouldn't come on here and compare two guns, that to me, aren't in the same class. Fit, finish, and resale are great on the Benelli. But you can also get high end guns from Franchi, Winchester (SX2), Browning, etc. that don't cost as much as Benelli. I don't bash my friends that shoot Novas or SBE's. I just think that the Benelli's are a little overpriced, IMO.
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Old 01-26-2005, 02:48 PM
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Sorry BBM, I wasn't addressing you as a 'basher'. It just seems to be a common thread on many of these sites. I agree with you about the comparisons, that's why I didn't even validate that nonsense with a comment.

I prefer Brownings myself but I'm also left-handed which severely limits my choices.
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Old 01-26-2005, 02:54 PM
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Brownings are very nice guns.I like them allso.I have a good ithica that shoots real nice allso.

Not to impressed with my benelli.
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Old 01-26-2005, 02:54 PM
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compare a M2 to an 11-87. M2 $1000 11-87 $800 for premier
Buck, not sure where you are getting your premiers, but I get them for $550. Shoot, got to walmarts page and get em for $600. I can get the M2's for 950.

Your not being fair at all.

You know I just traded my 1187 for a browning gold. And I think I screwed up. All I could think about is dollar amounts. But thinking back, I had a 1187 that shot good, never jammed, and reliable. I mean there was nothing I could complain about besides the rattle when the action was pulled back. Why did I trade it for a gun, that I am not sure will be as reliable.

I think there are too many gun snobs out there, that feel they got to have a weatherby, or benelli. If you got the flow, thats fine. But I can't honestly say I kill anymore fowl with my higher dollar guns than even my 200 dollar 870.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 03:47 PM
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That post hit pretty close to the bullseye Big.....its all about the name and the shimmer to some folks.
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Old 01-26-2005, 03:54 PM
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its all about the name and the shimmer to some folks
You are probably right doe. We all are guilty of it to some extent. I know when I traded my 1187 for that gold, all I was thinking about how much a gold cost new. So I raise my hand, guilty as charged.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 04:35 PM
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This is a funny thread. Maybe I think that 'cause I'm not a great shotgun enthusiast, but I do like my shotguns. I agree with most of the comments pro & con regarding Remington and Benelli. But it just isn't Remington that seems to have their head in the sand when it comes down to U.S.
shotgun mfrs. Certainly Winchester and Mossberg are right there along with Remington: using yesterday's technology and mfrg principles. And I do take my hat off to Benelli, hands down, the premier leading shotgun innovator/mfr of the world! And you can't find a decent, reasonably priced side-by-side shotgun mfrd in the states. They're all european!
Of course there are gun "snobs" in every aspect of the shooting sport. Probably always will be those who own this or that brand of gun resulting in ballooning their chest more than improving their scores, or hunting success.
Point being, several guns work very well. Regardless whether they were mfrd locally in the states or from across the Atlantic or Pacific. And the price points are everywhere, from economy to presentation grade. I don't shoot clay pigeons, mainly 'cause I never could figure out how you cook them after you kill em. But I do hunt quite a bit of upland game and quite successfully with two old S/S and one not-so-old Rem 870. And they all put the meat in the pot, so to speak. Year-in, year-out.
But I would like to get a new S/S.
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Old 02-12-2005, 10:01 PM
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Are YOU sure? I see comments in here about what is and isn't American. I admit I'm not a shotgun expert. I use one to hunt pheasant mostly and would like to upgrade from my Browning to an auto...however, I shoot lefty. I am limited. I think I narrowed it to a Benelli or an 1187 Remington.

What I know about handguns and cars is that what we think is American, may not be. Check where your Dodge and Chevy truck is built. Many are Mexican and Canadian built, depends on model... Also, the big Nissan and Toyota trucks? They are buiilt in the US by Americans, most Toyota vehicles are built here now.

Some guns may be assembled here, but parts are foreign. This is true with so many items...from furniture to lawn mowers!

Now, should I get that lefty Benelli or Remington 12 g semi-auto?

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Old 02-12-2005, 10:25 PM
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I just have almost no interest in Tristar/Diana/Baikal/etc. I know people who have bought stuff from these companies and have been happy, but I'm not willing to spend money on something that is new and completely unknown.
I'll actually soften my stance a bit. A local gunshop now has a whole rack of SxS shotguns made in turkey I think. The actions felt a little too tight, but they pointed and balanced nicely. Some of the cheaper ones had plastic stocks that look like wood- kind of like the stocks on the cheaper Beretta semiautos, which Idon't like. I might now buy one in 20 guage- around $500 is about 1/4 the cost of a beretta or Browning SxS.
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Old 02-13-2005, 10:59 AM
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Yes and those foreign companies don't have lawyers suing them everytime they sneeze . Just ask Ruger
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