Margin for error. ?????
01-12-2005, 02:06 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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Margin for error. ?????
This saying has got to go, theres no such thing as margin for error. Plain and simple if you miss the vitals no matter what caliber you use that deer aint going down, be prepared for a long tracking job. Another tired saying " good brush gun" no such thing.
01-12-2005, 02:36 PM
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RE: Margin for error. ?????
Margin of error is the little extra to reach the vitals if you have to punch thru more than a broad side shot or needs to break a shoulder and still exit or if you are slightly off mark and only hit the back of 1 lung. High shock small diamiter and penatration cal some times lack it .
I agree that no bullet will bust brush and still get to the target ,not even a 12 gau slug will do it .
IMO a brush gun is a shorter barreled quick handeling rifle not a brush buster
I agree that no bullet will bust brush and still get to the target ,not even a 12 gau slug will do it .
IMO a brush gun is a shorter barreled quick handeling rifle not a brush buster
01-12-2005, 02:43 PM
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RE: Margin for error. ?????
I agree on both counts. A poor hit with any caliber has the same result. There can be a margin of power but you still have to put the bullet in a good spot. Yes Brush will deflect and bullet of any speed or weight.
01-12-2005, 02:44 PM
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RE: Margin for error. ?????
You know that reminds me of something. The first day of archery here in MD, my buddy shot too far at this 4 pt and it hit a little branch and nailed him in the arse. Where the tail it. Don't know how he managed to hit it. Anyway we were both hunting pretty close and I saw it hit. It parallized that deer's back hind leg. So all it could do is throw itself up with one back leg and pull itself. It came by me a few min later. And I put a arrow thru its lungs at 30. But I have yet to see such a ugly shot that was so effective.
01-12-2005, 02:49 PM
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RE: Margin for error. ?????
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You know that reminds me of something. The first day of archery here in MD, my buddy shot too far at this 4 pt and it hit a little branch and nailed him in the arse. Where the tail it. Don't know how he managed to hit it. Anyway we were both hunting pretty close and I saw it hit. It parallized that deer's back hind leg. So all it could do is throw itself up with one back leg and pull itself. It came by me a few min later. And I put a arrow thru its lungs at 30. But I have yet to see such a ugly shot that was so effective.
You know that reminds me of something. The first day of archery here in MD, my buddy shot too far at this 4 pt and it hit a little branch and nailed him in the arse. Where the tail it. Don't know how he managed to hit it. Anyway we were both hunting pretty close and I saw it hit. It parallized that deer's back hind leg. So all it could do is throw itself up with one back leg and pull itself. It came by me a few min later. And I put a arrow thru its lungs at 30. But I have yet to see such a ugly shot that was so effective.
01-12-2005, 11:33 PM
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RE: Margin for error. ?????
I use the saying margin for error in explaining my reasons for using lungshots instead of headshots.Since the lung area is a much larger target it gives me a greater margin for error.
01-13-2005, 03:51 AM
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RE: Margin for error. ?????
I can't say I'm proud of this but I shot my first deer at about 14 yrs of age in Hawaii. Thick bushy landscape full of mesquite trees and small area, you often see deer at less than 20 yards sprinting thru trees. 3 bucks was running away thru the trees, I shot the last one, clipped his spinal cord right above hind legs. Friend went and finished him right after. Funny, the only other deer shot there, I hit him in the neck jumping over a hill. Spine shot also. Dead before he hit the ground.
01-13-2005, 11:53 AM
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RE: Margin for error. ?????
I agree Stubblejumper, there is a margin for error, with good shot placement! As you've said, there is a good margin for error with lung shots, and little or no margin for error with head and neck shots.
There are also good brush guns. Shorter barreled, with low magnification scopes, are good brush guns! There are NO "brush busters!" All calibers of bullets will be deflected by contact with brush!
There are also good brush guns. Shorter barreled, with low magnification scopes, are good brush guns! There are NO "brush busters!" All calibers of bullets will be deflected by contact with brush!