How is the Marlin 336?
06-27-2004, 07:09 PM
#11
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RE: How is the Marlin 336?
Marlins are great rifles, nothing wrong with Winchester...just in my opinion, Marlins are stronger, better finished rifles. I own a model 1895 in .45-70, real workhorse won't let you down.
And indeed, they're accurate, and practically speaking, they're every bit as good as a bolt-action.
Kind regards,
Vesi
And indeed, they're accurate, and practically speaking, they're every bit as good as a bolt-action.
Kind regards,
Vesi
06-27-2004, 07:10 PM
#12
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Finland
Posts: 140
RE: How is the Marlin 336?
Marlins are great rifles, nothing wrong with Winchester...just in my opinion, Marlins are stronger, better finished rifles. I own a model 1895 in .45-70, real workhorse won't let you down.
And indeed, they're accurate, and practically speaking, they're every bit as good as a bolt-action.
Kind regards,
Vesi
And indeed, they're accurate, and practically speaking, they're every bit as good as a bolt-action.
Kind regards,
Vesi
06-28-2004, 08:46 AM
#14
Join Date: May 2004
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RE: How is the Marlin 336?
To the best of my knowledge, a 444 is a model 1895 in .444 Marlin, so yes, the name is the difference when you ask me.
Marlin lists a few "groups" on their site, and the 444 is amongst the 1895 bunch. It would make sence too, big-bores with big-bores etc.
Check out their site, lots of good info there.
www.marlinfirearms.com
Kind regards,
Vesi
Marlin lists a few "groups" on their site, and the 444 is amongst the 1895 bunch. It would make sence too, big-bores with big-bores etc.
Check out their site, lots of good info there.
www.marlinfirearms.com
Kind regards,
Vesi
06-28-2004, 01:20 PM
#15
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: How is the Marlin 336?
Yes the 444 Marlin is still called the 444.
It used to be called the 444S, which is what I have, and then the 444SS but now it's just the 444. They group it with the rest of the 1895's on their site simply because its a big bore rifle.
The original 1895 was a black powder only rifle when smokeless powder was coming around. It did not use heat treating but relied on thick steel in its receiver to provide its strength. These two things caused it to not sell well and later it was dropped.
The model 336 came along when the smokeless 30-30 was introduced and the name was changed from model 1936 to the 336 sometime later. It is very similar to the 1936 but had some changes that made it a better and stronger rifle.
The model 94 came next and is nearly identical to the 336. The receiver is larger to accept larger cartridges and some parts are slightly different.
The model 95 came next which I believe is the modern 1895. It is identical to the 336 except its receiver is even larger to accept the big bore cartridges.
I posted schematics from Brownells and you can see that all three are identical in their parts. 444 - top, 1895 - middle, 336 - bottom
It used to be called the 444S, which is what I have, and then the 444SS but now it's just the 444. They group it with the rest of the 1895's on their site simply because its a big bore rifle.
The original 1895 was a black powder only rifle when smokeless powder was coming around. It did not use heat treating but relied on thick steel in its receiver to provide its strength. These two things caused it to not sell well and later it was dropped.
The model 336 came along when the smokeless 30-30 was introduced and the name was changed from model 1936 to the 336 sometime later. It is very similar to the 1936 but had some changes that made it a better and stronger rifle.
In 1893, Marlin produced a new action for Marlin .32/40 and .38/55 cartridges. When the .30/30 introduced smokeless powder, he quickly added that caliber. Designation of this rifle was changed to Model 336 in 1948 when a round bolt was substituted for the original square one to strengthen the action.
The model 95 came next which I believe is the modern 1895. It is identical to the 336 except its receiver is even larger to accept the big bore cartridges.
I posted schematics from Brownells and you can see that all three are identical in their parts. 444 - top, 1895 - middle, 336 - bottom
06-29-2004, 06:08 AM
#16
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RE: How is the Marlin 336?
BB,
Not to be disagreable,
But the 336 is not the same as the 94. The 94, which does not have the round bolt but a square one, came first. Although it was a very good action (and still is), It was only offered only in pistol calibers and 30-30 and 38-55 as the larger calibers. While the action was strong, it just isn't up to the bigger calibers.
The 1895 is basically the same as the 336 and this is the round bolt version. It is, to my knowledge, only chambered in rifle calibers and goes up to some pretty stout rounds, 45-70, 450 Marlin, 480 Ruger and 475 Limbaugh, with some of the lighter rounds being 35 rem, 38-55 and 30-30.
I am pretty sure that current 94 production is only offered in the pisol calibers (38, 357, 41, 44 and 45) and the 336/1895 models are produced in the heavier calibers (the 336 being 30-30, 38-55 and 35 rem and the 95 in the really large calibers).
In either case, fine guns with very strong actions and a preferable side ejection.
Ahankster.
Not to be disagreable,
But the 336 is not the same as the 94. The 94, which does not have the round bolt but a square one, came first. Although it was a very good action (and still is), It was only offered only in pistol calibers and 30-30 and 38-55 as the larger calibers. While the action was strong, it just isn't up to the bigger calibers.
The 1895 is basically the same as the 336 and this is the round bolt version. It is, to my knowledge, only chambered in rifle calibers and goes up to some pretty stout rounds, 45-70, 450 Marlin, 480 Ruger and 475 Limbaugh, with some of the lighter rounds being 35 rem, 38-55 and 30-30.
I am pretty sure that current 94 production is only offered in the pisol calibers (38, 357, 41, 44 and 45) and the 336/1895 models are produced in the heavier calibers (the 336 being 30-30, 38-55 and 35 rem and the 95 in the really large calibers).
In either case, fine guns with very strong actions and a preferable side ejection.
Ahankster.
06-29-2004, 06:43 AM
#17
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: How is the Marlin 336?
I just got done shooting my friends and i was really impressed.
Actually, a Marlin 336 is about as good a choice as any for such uses. But I'd suggest the .35 Rem. caliber over the .30/30!!
06-29-2004, 10:09 AM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gypsum KS USA
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RE: How is the Marlin 336?
WHOA!!!! I just went back and read your post again, DON'T BUY THE MARLIN THROUGH CABELA'S, you can buy one from Walmart for $300 easy, if not $250...The only one I bought new was for my fiance a year ago, $239.99 from K-mart, Walmart had them for $249.99...if local gunshops won't compete with Walmart, then let them keep their guns on their shelf, how much service do you really get out of local shops anymore anyway. There's no reason to spend that much extra on a gun just so the guy who's selling it to you actually knows how to shoot it.
