first rifle
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lewisville MN USA
Posts: 17
first rifle
Been looking for a good all around rifle. Something that will take coyote to elk in one cartridge.
I talked to a guy at the fur shop and a remington 710 package and a savage 11FC package are the same price.
Which of these would be more accurate? The fur buyer says they are the same. I have heard that the 710 isn't a great gun. If I do this I have to buy without shooting one. I'll probably go buy one somewhere that I can shoot before I buy.
I am also looking at a remington pump .270, anyone know anything about them. Functionality? Accuracy?
I talked to a guy at the fur shop and a remington 710 package and a savage 11FC package are the same price.
Which of these would be more accurate? The fur buyer says they are the same. I have heard that the 710 isn't a great gun. If I do this I have to buy without shooting one. I'll probably go buy one somewhere that I can shoot before I buy.
I am also looking at a remington pump .270, anyone know anything about them. Functionality? Accuracy?
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Tahlequah, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,584
RE: first rifle
The 710 is regarded on this site by most as being plain old junk. Id go for a savage rifle, they have an excellent reputation for accuracy. Coyotes to elk is a big niche to fill. If you dont care about the fur of the coyotes go for a 270wsm or a 30-06.
#3
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Posts: 213
RE: first rifle
The 710 is not the gun to buy if you plan on keeping it for a long time. Mine's only a little over a year old and the blueing is coming off, the locking lever for the bolt keeps working up so the bolt comes out when I cycle the bolt, and despite my best efforts it's starting to rust. It's one good quality is that is very accurate. Mine shoots sub 1" groups with cheap Remington Corelokts and Federal Premiums. Haven't been around the savages so don't know about them.
#8
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: KY
Posts: 188
RE: first rifle
My first Deer rifle was a savage 110 30-6. I got the gun when I was 12. The first time I went hunting with it i had a problem. I placed the gun in a boat. The gun slid down the boat. And the sights broke off. Come to find out that the sights were plastic. Who would put plastic sights on a hunting rifle. Both sights broke off.
I spent all weekend watching everyone else hunt. I will never own another savage again.
I would take a remington anyday over a savage. If I wanted to spend a little more I would get a browning. Check out the 7400 remington the price isn't that bad.
I spent all weekend watching everyone else hunt. I will never own another savage again.
I would take a remington anyday over a savage. If I wanted to spend a little more I would get a browning. Check out the 7400 remington the price isn't that bad.
#9
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SE Wisc
Posts: 677
RE: first rifle
I just looked at the Rem 710.. sorry but junk in my eyes. I wouldn't get it if it were $200. I went with a Winchester Model 70. IT was the same price. I got the 3006 cuz of the wide range of bullets you can use. It's a good all around caliber for what you may be looking for. I also looked at Savage and i would buy one of them as well. But it was the same price as my Win and the Winchester looked alot more refined to me.
you could look at 7mm-08 as well. That's my next caliber.
you could look at 7mm-08 as well. That's my next caliber.
#10
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 170
RE: first rifle
Of those two guns mentioned, I would get the Savage hands down. The Remington 710 is one of the worst rifels ever made.
The Winchester Model 70 that Semi got is a great littel gun as well. I would get the Windchester over the other two, and then the Savage over the 710.
As to calibers, eveyone has an opinion on them. I like both the 30-06 and 270 Winchester. Both calibers have a wide variety of choices of manufactured ammo.
Another thing to consider is buying a used rifle. Then you will not have to worry about breaking your gun in. I like my guns to have a little personality, a scratch on the stock, or a small scratch here or there. Minor blemishes do not bother me, but you do need to know what to look for too.
Good luck!
Matt
The Winchester Model 70 that Semi got is a great littel gun as well. I would get the Windchester over the other two, and then the Savage over the 710.
As to calibers, eveyone has an opinion on them. I like both the 30-06 and 270 Winchester. Both calibers have a wide variety of choices of manufactured ammo.
Another thing to consider is buying a used rifle. Then you will not have to worry about breaking your gun in. I like my guns to have a little personality, a scratch on the stock, or a small scratch here or there. Minor blemishes do not bother me, but you do need to know what to look for too.
Good luck!
Matt