denclark

im hoping 1shot1kill can help me out my grandpa wants to get me a chinese military cartridge to use instead of my 243 i forgot what the name of it is but he says its a about 150yards gun which shoots a .308 dia bullet but its case is very small do you know anything about this i know im kinda lacking some info here but can you help??

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Herman_and_bill

Tell your grandpa those guns aren't very accurate and to spend the same dollar on a NEF Handy Rifle in 308 30-06 or 270

aunsaber

A single shot rifle like the HandiRifle can make you a better shot also. You'll work harder for a good shot in a hunting situation.

Briman

The longest range I ever took a deer at was 410 yards with a .243. Now I wouldn't recommend taking such a shot, but with any rifle chambered in 7.62x39 you don't even have a prayer of making a decent shot at a deer at that range, let alone half that range.

1SHOT_1KILL

Denclark,

It sounds like your grandpa is talking about the 7.62x39 round. It was developed by the Russians in the late 1940's, by basically copying a German cartirdge and making minor changes. A lot of people today think of it as a Chinese round, because of the large amount of SKS's, MAK-90, and AK-47 clones imported in the US and their popualrity. Eventhough it has the 7.62mm name, it actually has a bore diameter of .310-.311, not .308 diameter.

The 7.62x39 rounds shoot a 123gr bullet at approximately 2,400-2,500 fps. The round is comparable to the 30/30 Win, in terms of trajectory and energy levels. Your grandpa is correct, in that it is about a 150yd gun.

The major draw back to this round is, that it is most commanly chambered for semi-auto rifles, tha are not the accurate, like the SKS and AK-47. But Ruger makes a very neat little bolt gun chambered in 7.62x39. If this is the new gun your grandpa is think about, it will be a great little gun. One of the great things about this round is the overly plentiful supply of inexpensive mil-surp ammo. You can shot almost all day long for $20 worth of ammo; that's shooting for quality, not quanity, that is. Hunting rounds come in 2 types, soft points and hollow points, both in 123gr.

What are you now about about 13? Have you gotten any size to you yet?

Mainehunter

I know several people that I target shoot with that are able to consistantly hit a standard 100 yard target at 400 yards with iron sights easy enough with a 7.62 x 39 so I wouldn't be too concerned about accuracy with one of them, especially if you use a scope. I think that range drops the energy too low to be very effective for clean kills so you do have to be reasonable about the range limitations in that regard.
I used an SKS years ago for deer and cleanly dropped a small buck at 35 yards with a shoulder shot using soft point rounds. If I remember correctly the standard round for that rifle is 130 grains. They are another from the "fun to shoot" and the ammo is cheap category.

Shooter Dan

The 7.62X39 is a fun round to shoot, especially if it's in a semi-auto like the Mini 30. There's a lot of good inexpensive ammo out there like the Wolf 122 gr. HP. Just recently Wolf started making 154 gr Soft Points that should be good for hunting. A hunter should have no problems killing a deer out to 150 yards with this round.

Hk45USP

Stick with the .243. Better bullet.

BigEd

1shot_1kill, I didn't know Ruger made anything in 7.62X39 besides the Mini-30. I have seen the CZ-USA bolt-actions in it. They are neat little guns and come with a single-set trigger. But heck denclark I'd stick with that .243, it'll shoot a heck of alot flatter than the 7.63X39 for moderatly long shots.