“Weak” cartridges, but “recommended” for large animals.
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Nontypical Buck
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I couldn't find the video I was speaking of earlier but I did find another one of a guy taking 3 doe with sub sonic 500+ grain lehigh controlled fracturing. All over 100 yards, all pass through with slow motion impact and with the last one he found the slug in the base of the tree that was behind the deer. Just goes to show how you absolutely do NOT need the latest greatest magnum cartridge. All three of these shots, the doe didn't even slow the bullet down. Just punched right through. The first 2 you can see the ground strike behind the deer. It's really all about bullet design more than it is speed. The Lehigh CF bullets have pedals that shear off inside the cavity and the slug (which is most of the weight of the bullet) pounds on through. My sister has dropped a few deer with Bloodlines which if I have been told correctly are pretty much the same design. I know for a fact every deer she has hit with them from 48 yards out to over 200 has fell within 50 yards of impact (most dropped right there) and this was with a .50cal muzzleloader. I tend to make my own conical bullets for my sidelocks and, depending on what hardness I tin them to, I will generally get pass through performance as well. Now If I go with less tin then they are pretty soft and expand quickly, dumping a ton of energy into the deer which causes shock trauma. If I'm anywhere near CNS this is a dropping shot. Anyway, here is the video I found. Maybe actually seeing what we are talking about will inform you.
#22
Banned
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: south eastern PA
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I couldn't find the video I was speaking of earlier but I did find another one of a guy taking 3 doe with sub sonic 500+ grain lehigh controlled fracturing. All over 100 yards, all pass through with slow motion impact and with the last one he found the slug in the base of the tree that was behind the deer. Just goes to show how you absolutely do NOT need the latest greatest magnum cartridge. All three of these shots, the doe didn't even slow the bullet down. Just punched right through. The first 2 you can see the ground strike behind the deer. It's really all about bullet design more than it is speed. The Lehigh CF bullets have pedals that shear off inside the cavity and the slug (which is most of the weight of the bullet) pounds on through. My sister has dropped a few deer with Bloodlines which if I have been told correctly are pretty much the same design. I know for a fact every deer she has hit with them from 48 yards out to over 200 has fell within 50 yards of impact (most dropped right there) and this was with a .50cal muzzleloader. I tend to make my own conical bullets for my sidelocks and, depending on what hardness I tin them to, I will generally get pass through performance as well. Now If I go with less tin then they are pretty soft and expand quickly, dumping a ton of energy into the deer which causes shock trauma. If I'm anywhere near CNS this is a dropping shot. Anyway, here is the video I found. Maybe actually seeing what we are talking about will inform you.
https://youtu.be/Gu8_0Y2IGF8?t=396
https://youtu.be/Gu8_0Y2IGF8?t=396