Savage 220 or 212?
#11
Thanks Bowhuntercop. The gunsmith that I am going to have mount my scope actually carries that mount! I think I am gonna go with a Nikon SlugHunter for my scope....well unless something else trips my trigger while I am at Dicks picking the gun up tomorrow.
#13
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 208
Actually to correct one of the prior posts, the 12 ga. slugs are most always a little flatter shooting due to the slightly higher velocities generated (comparing similar projectiles). Accuracy can be debatable. The 12 ga. recoils much harder and can lead to flinching and/or jerking of the trigger.
#15
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 240
Henson great buy, do yourself a favor and buy a couple boxes of Rem Accutips and shoot them before you go buy alot of others and spend 150 bucks like me and others to find that the Accutips group great. I have been shooting the 2 3/4in because I couldn't find the 3 in. They shoot so well I don't know if I will go to the 3in. I can honestly hit a quarter size bullseye at 100 yrds. Good luck let us know how it shot .
#16
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 136
#17
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 136
AccuTip Bonded Sabot Slug
Gauge Length Slug Wt. Muzzle Velocity
12 ga 2 ¾” 385 gr 1850 fps
12 ga 3” 385 gr 1900 fps
20 ga 2 ¾” 260 gr 1850 fps
20 ga 3” 260 gr 1900 fps
This is the only chart I could find. It is clear that the velocity is almost the same in both gauges. However, the 12 gauge slug weigh almost 68% more than the 20 gauge. Since the speed is the same, it stands to reason that the 12 gauge has significantly more knock down power. Since using my 210F, I have never had to shoot a deer more than once and, they usually fell in sight.
#18
As far as the accuracy debate goes, the 20g is a little more accurate than the 12. The reason is that the projectiles ( usually .45" diameter ) are closer to bore size ( .615" inside diameter). The 12g with .50" diameter projectiles and .720" ID barrels. That means 20s have thinner, easier to shed sabots and easier to stabilize slugs. This is out of the October Buckmasters magazine. I know for a fact that my 220F loves the 3" Accutips. I sighted in my new gun at 50yds. and it hits the 100yd target in the same place which tells me that it's pretty flat shooting. The 12 may have more knock down power but my H&R 20 would knock the crap out of a Deer out to 100yds and without the added recoil of a 12.
#19
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 136
If what you are using is successful, stick with it. There is nothing wrong with the 20 gauge for deer.
That being said, I never notice the recoil when hunting. Admittedly, I am not terribly recoil sensitive but sometimes I cannot remember the noise. I am too focused on what I am doing.
That being said, I never notice the recoil when hunting. Admittedly, I am not terribly recoil sensitive but sometimes I cannot remember the noise. I am too focused on what I am doing.
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Warren County NJ USA
Posts: 3,899
there was a time I would only use the 12ga, in no way would I use a 20ga., but that changed about 5 years ago, I love that 20ga, my H&R is tack driver, but my Savage is even better, I'm using it this year for both deer and bear hunting