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Old 08-07-2011, 10:15 AM
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A .223 is a pop gun.

.223 55gr.........3.2
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:17 AM
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Try this one.

460 Wby Mag 500gr...........99.6
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
A .223 is a pop gun.

.223 55gr.........3.2
deadly as any other too....3.2 is kinda funny. whats a 17 do?
how bout the link to where ever you found these plz?
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:27 AM
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:30 PM
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I'd buy her a .243 youth model. More than enough gun for deer and ammo is fairly cheap. If she doens't take to hunting you can always let one of your kids use it in the future or let a neice or nephew use it.
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:45 PM
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Here's another option. Get a caliber you might want. Then get her the reduced recoil ammo. It shoots about like a .243. If she decides she doesn't like it.

You have a new gun.
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Old 08-07-2011, 07:03 PM
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Here's a suggestion .... and it may seem off the wall at first. There are two cartridges not mentioned by any of the others. These are the 260 Rem. ... which is a 308 Win. case necked down to 6.5 mm; and the 6.5X55 SE ... which is a popular cartridge in Europe for medium game. I can attest to the effectiveness of both of these on white tails and mule deer. I do not have a recoil chart in front of me, but I am guessing that the recoil is something just less that the 7mm-O8 Rem. Both of these cartridges usually do great with bullets in the 130 - 140 gr. weight. There is not a whole lot of choice for ammo in either, and it would probably be impossible to find a box in Two Dot, TX or AR or AZ , etc. I have a European Mauser in 6.5x55 SE and I have killed dozens of deer with it, out to well beyond 250 yards. It is my No.1 "lender" and the "spare" I bring with me. One of my best friends son has used a 260 Rem. for going on 6 years. He has killed many, many deer ... a few feral hogs ... and 2 fine mule deer.

Back to answering your question .... look at a youth size rifle in 270 Win. I love the 308 Win. It is my No.1 personal choice , but in your case the tad lighter recoil, and the fact that the 270 Win. is one of the best case-bullet combos for deer killing .... if she can handle the recoil, can't go wrong.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:08 AM
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I would not put too much value in Chuck Hawks charts or any others for that matter! They are good "guides" but, there are too many variables to consider unless these values are with the exact same weight, style and barrel length for each caliber. Then, there is also the size of the shooter and the fit of the rifle to that person.
I have a light .308 and a fairly heavy 7MM RM, I shoot 150 gr. bullets in both. If I had to say which recoils harder it would be the .308!
Long story short, the .270 or the .308 would both be too much for a bad shoulder/ beginner! The 7MM-08 might even be too much. A medium to heavy weight .243 will kill any deer out to 300 yds. That would be my choice.
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JagMagMan
I would not put too much value in Chuck Hawks charts or any others for that matter! They are good "guides" but, there are too many variables to consider unless these values are with the exact same weight, style and barrel length for each caliber. Then, there is also the size of the shooter and the fit of the rifle to that person.
I have a light .308 and a fairly heavy 7MM RM, I shoot 150 gr. bullets in both. If I had to say which recoils harder it would be the .308!
Long story short, the .270 or the .308 would both be too much for a bad shoulder/ beginner! The 7MM-08 might even be too much. A medium to heavy weight .243 will kill any deer out to 300 yds. That would be my choice.
Yes ... many, many variables go into the felt recoil a shooter experiences. Rifle fit to the shooter is way overlooked, and should be a a starting point.

Here's a good chart to reveiw, ... it assumes a rifle weight of 8 lbs. for every caliber charted
http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=56996

1 second the .243 choice, and also feel the 6.5 X 55 Swede is a round that allows little recoil in the lighter loads, AND the ability to "step-up" in bullet weight and power for a W I D E varietly of game. Easier to find a good .243 though.

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Old 08-08-2011, 10:18 AM
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I would stick to something like a .243 or even a 30-30 lever gun. I have both a 7mm-08 and a 308 and the 7mm-08 kicks harder than my 308. As mentioned, way to many variables to consider. But both my guns are savage models. My 308 kicks less! I would say both the 7mm-08 and the 308 are not for someone recoil sensitive thou. 243 and get the job done on whitetail with no problem at all.
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