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10-02-2010, 07:55 AM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,329
Well I'll leave you to your vices. Just don't cry foul when Walmart runs everyone out of business and then dictates to the customer what they should and shouldn't buy. Case in point, explicit lyric music albumns. Walmart for most of their existence didn't carry them.
As far as Walmart providing benefits, Walmart is the largest consumer of Medicaid and Medicare in the entire country. Some 20 years ago they were a 10,000,000,000, that's 10 Billion dollar line item against the federal government. To clearly illustrate that means that a significant proportion of their employees live below the poverty line and qualify for those benefits. I'd hate to think what that expense is today.
I won't respond to this again since I think I'm already way over the line on this post since it has nothing to do with the original posters comments.
Tom
As far as Walmart providing benefits, Walmart is the largest consumer of Medicaid and Medicare in the entire country. Some 20 years ago they were a 10,000,000,000, that's 10 Billion dollar line item against the federal government. To clearly illustrate that means that a significant proportion of their employees live below the poverty line and qualify for those benefits. I'd hate to think what that expense is today.
I won't respond to this again since I think I'm already way over the line on this post since it has nothing to do with the original posters comments.
Tom
10-02-2010, 09:01 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,519
Well I'll leave you to your vices. Just don't cry foul when Walmart runs everyone out of business and then dictates to the customer what they should and shouldn't buy. Case in point, explicit lyric music albumns. Walmart for most of their existence didn't carry them.
As far as Walmart providing benefits, Walmart is the largest consumer of Medicaid and Medicare in the entire country. Some 20 years ago they were a 10,000,000,000, that's 10 Billion dollar line item against the federal government. To clearly illustrate that means that a significant proportion of their employees live below the poverty line and qualify for those benefits. I'd hate to think what that expense is today.
I won't respond to this again since I think I'm already way over the line on this post since it has nothing to do with the original posters comments.
Tom
As far as Walmart providing benefits, Walmart is the largest consumer of Medicaid and Medicare in the entire country. Some 20 years ago they were a 10,000,000,000, that's 10 Billion dollar line item against the federal government. To clearly illustrate that means that a significant proportion of their employees live below the poverty line and qualify for those benefits. I'd hate to think what that expense is today.
I won't respond to this again since I think I'm already way over the line on this post since it has nothing to do with the original posters comments.
Tom
We also have a local cd shop that's great. They are still in business even after Walmart. The reason is that they treat customers very very well, and they have decent prices. Now they aren't always as cheap as Walmart. A CD that's $13 at Walmart may be $14 at the local shop, but it's not double the price either.
If gun shops would operate like that and offer great service, decent prices, and a friendly staff, they wouldn't be run out of business by places like Walmart either.
10-02-2010, 12:33 PM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: S.W. Pa.-- Heart in North Central Pa. mountains-
Posts: 2,600
Homer,
Sorry I just can't let this go. I worked for a direct supplier for Walmart for 6 years. I was pretty high up the ranks and was privy to quite a bit of information. I assure you 100% that the prices will move up once they run the mom & pops out of town. I know this because for the company I worked for I devised the statistical methodology that set the pricing tiers. This was mandated by Walmart.
Am I proud of the work I did? No. But if I didn't do it then some other jerk would have done it.
If you can't find a local seller that has reasonable prices then buy online and find yourself a local FFL that deals at a reasonable cost. I have guy locally that charges $15 to receive and $25 to ship. If you look hard enough you'll find the same.
Trust me on this one. Don't shop at Walmart. They are unreasonable in their business practices.
Here's one last thing I'll leave you with. Walmart will rarely buy from one distributor. They like to have a minimum of two. The Walmart policy is that a distributor must sell them the product cheaper than they sold it to them last year or the product must come with a value add. They play the distributors against each other with this game. Many of these distributors operate at a loss and generally find ways to degrade the product. They have agreements and if they violate those agreements with Walmart, they will get contacted by the lawyers. Fun stuff, I know all about this.
I'll leave this dog lie now unless you choose to rebut anything I've said.
Tom
Sorry I just can't let this go. I worked for a direct supplier for Walmart for 6 years. I was pretty high up the ranks and was privy to quite a bit of information. I assure you 100% that the prices will move up once they run the mom & pops out of town. I know this because for the company I worked for I devised the statistical methodology that set the pricing tiers. This was mandated by Walmart.
Am I proud of the work I did? No. But if I didn't do it then some other jerk would have done it.
If you can't find a local seller that has reasonable prices then buy online and find yourself a local FFL that deals at a reasonable cost. I have guy locally that charges $15 to receive and $25 to ship. If you look hard enough you'll find the same.
Trust me on this one. Don't shop at Walmart. They are unreasonable in their business practices.
Here's one last thing I'll leave you with. Walmart will rarely buy from one distributor. They like to have a minimum of two. The Walmart policy is that a distributor must sell them the product cheaper than they sold it to them last year or the product must come with a value add. They play the distributors against each other with this game. Many of these distributors operate at a loss and generally find ways to degrade the product. They have agreements and if they violate those agreements with Walmart, they will get contacted by the lawyers. Fun stuff, I know all about this.
I'll leave this dog lie now unless you choose to rebut anything I've said.
Tom
....... Woah!! That just hit a nerve!! Wonder if what Tom is talking about (multiple distributors and cheaper next year) could be what spawned the 710/770 Remingtons? Hmmm.....
10-04-2010, 02:19 PM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Titusville Florida
Posts: 1,727
10-04-2010, 04:52 PM
#26
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SE Wisc
Posts: 677
First of all the Mfg's aren't going to send rejects to walmart. How ridicules. LIke remington is going to send all their crappy Corelokts to walmart and savage all their junk guns as well. Sorry, but i will buy where i get a good fair price. I once found a Win m70 for $999 at a gun shop. Loved the gun, but found it for $799 at a big box store. Tell me why i would pay $200 difference just so i can say i bought at a gun store? i can probably deal with $20-$30 more but this is just plain wrong.
Either way, once again, you got a good deal. I have a couple of savages now, each shoots great and guess what? one came from walmart. My latest from Cabelas.
Either way, once again, you got a good deal. I have a couple of savages now, each shoots great and guess what? one came from walmart. My latest from Cabelas.
