The Obama Plan
#21
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 128
RE: The Obama Plan
Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but it was George Bush the 1st who signed the Nafta agreement. And I do not understand how people can blame Bush the 2nd for the mess we are in. Everyone knows that a President cannot spend money unless congress approves it. So basically it is the congress and the senate that has screwed our country. Who has had control of the house and senate for the past 8 years?
#22
RE: The Obama Plan
ORIGINAL: 3000fps
well I do for 1 Ask yourself are you better now than you were 8 yrs ago? Dont you want a job? Or a home to live in? The give to the rich and let it tricle down sure dont work.Look at Wall Street
well I do for 1 Ask yourself are you better now than you were 8 yrs ago? Dont you want a job? Or a home to live in? The give to the rich and let it tricle down sure dont work.Look at Wall Street
Do I want a job? Of course, and I have one in the private sector. And I want to work on my own terms, not those dictated by government and the corrupt unions.
I have a home to live in, because I have a job and I didn't get a place I couldn't afford thanks to Barney Frank. Do you think that the taxpayers owe you a home just because you can't afford a mortgage?
As far as trickle down, have you ever been employed by a poor man? As much as the left just LOVES to create social unrest by playing the class warfare game (that's in the Communist Manifesto, too, BTW), the truth is that the wealthy are not the evil monsters that the libs make them out to be. The truth is that rich people (most of whom got rich because they are the smartest, most talented and hardest working among us) don't just stuff their money in their matress. They spend and invest their money which causes the economy to grow, business to start and expand, and jobs to be created. If you take away the wealth from the most productive members of society, and hand it out piecemeal to the least productive members through a wasteful a bloated government bureaucracy, the net result if ALWAYS stagnation and eventual collapse. Again, look to the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba, Venesuela, China (although China has started to see the light of Capitalism). Is that what you want? A "free" government apartment, "free" government rationed bread, and a guaranteed job that the government assigns you to, like it or not? God help us.
Mike
#24
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The Grand Canyon State
Posts: 567
RE: The Obama Plan
ORIGINAL: stalkingbear
I care VERY MUCH for AMERICA'S future-just don't care for socialist idiots that want to completely gut the constitution.
I care VERY MUCH for AMERICA'S future-just don't care for socialist idiots that want to completely gut the constitution.
ORIGINAL: 3000fps
thats stupid dude dont you care for Americes future,Cause if something dont change our path we will be hurting
thats stupid dude dont you care for Americes future,Cause if something dont change our path we will be hurting
I hate hearing these dumb paranoid republicans who are so obsessed with Obama ( who is trying to FIX your ideals mess up's ) and his policies, when theyfail to realize that Bush and his admin. were completly Fascist.
That's right, the Bush Tax cut's were completely aimed to give the wealthiest Americans more money than the struggling. That's class warfare, which is fascism. They were also a complete failure, much like Bush himself.
#27
RE: The Obama Plan
kaibab,
Yall young guys scare me. How can you be a hunter and a gun owner and not see what is headed our way!!
and 3000 I,m wondering why you have not took stalkingbear up on his offer concerning that shooting match???
Yall young guys scare me. How can you be a hunter and a gun owner and not see what is headed our way!!
and 3000 I,m wondering why you have not took stalkingbear up on his offer concerning that shooting match???
#29
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 183
RE: The Obama Plan
well I agree i like to own guns As I dad with a family I also like to know they will have a house,can get a job when there grown.Life is not entirely about guns,As far the shooting match I dont have the 220 Swift no more I had to sell it to keep my house Thanks Bush
#30
RE: The Obama Plan
How, PRECISELY, did Bush have anything, directly or indirectly, to do with you almost losing your house?
Are you just another kool-aid drinking liberal with a very irrational case of Bush Derangement Syndrome? Everything is Bush's fault, right. Almost lose your house? Bush's fault. Have to sell your gun? Bush's fault. Got the flu? Bush's fault. Dog won't let you pet him anymore? Bush's fault.
Guess what? Bush isn't President anymore. It's Obama's show now, and so far I have seen him do jack s**T that's actually going to help anything. All I've seen is the libs consolidating their power, shutting the GOP out of the lawmaking process, and pushing an agenda of BIG (massive, enormous) government and socialism. Now Obama and the libs have pi$$ed away over a trillion dollars and counting, tripled the deficit in less than a month, and did it with almost no GOP support. That means that Obama and the dems owns this recession now. If the economy isn't ship-shape and booming by this time next year, the 2010 elections are going to be VERY ugly for the libs I predict, and Obama will be Jimmy Carter Version 2.0beta. 4 and out, baby.
Will the next Ronald Reagan please stand up?
Mike
Are you just another kool-aid drinking liberal with a very irrational case of Bush Derangement Syndrome? Everything is Bush's fault, right. Almost lose your house? Bush's fault. Have to sell your gun? Bush's fault. Got the flu? Bush's fault. Dog won't let you pet him anymore? Bush's fault.
Guess what? Bush isn't President anymore. It's Obama's show now, and so far I have seen him do jack s**T that's actually going to help anything. All I've seen is the libs consolidating their power, shutting the GOP out of the lawmaking process, and pushing an agenda of BIG (massive, enormous) government and socialism. Now Obama and the libs have pi$$ed away over a trillion dollars and counting, tripled the deficit in less than a month, and did it with almost no GOP support. That means that Obama and the dems owns this recession now. If the economy isn't ship-shape and booming by this time next year, the 2010 elections are going to be VERY ugly for the libs I predict, and Obama will be Jimmy Carter Version 2.0beta. 4 and out, baby.
Will the next Ronald Reagan please stand up?
Mike