Remington 870 Express (What happend to Remington?)
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RE: Remington 870 Express (What happend to Remington?)
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Well, I realize it was in reply. But what I am explaining is people that have owned well over a dozen of these products are starting to see hiccups. There will be failures in any product. Even the ones I design. There are acceptable failure rates, and then there is unacceptable. Some I have seen lately are unacceptable. I have 700's that were made within the last 8 years that shoot well. I also have traded off or had the gun rebuilt on several that was not. I have had some real good 1187's with thousands of shells put thru them. But I have ran into some recently that are unacceptable.
You can't take your one product and apply it as a rule to all guns.
Well, I realize it was in reply. But what I am explaining is people that have owned well over a dozen of these products are starting to see hiccups. There will be failures in any product. Even the ones I design. There are acceptable failure rates, and then there is unacceptable. Some I have seen lately are unacceptable. I have 700's that were made within the last 8 years that shoot well. I also have traded off or had the gun rebuilt on several that was not. I have had some real good 1187's with thousands of shells put thru them. But I have ran into some recently that are unacceptable.
You can't take your one product and apply it as a rule to all guns.
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Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Garfield NJ USA
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RE: Remington 870 Express (What happend to Remington?)
I had the same issue with the 870 Super Express Magnum that I bought back in 2001, It would eject high brass with no problem, shoot low brass and it would jam each and every round. Called remington and they told me that it how it is and would not do anything to resolve the issue, this was within the first year of owning it. After that I bought a Hastings barrel from Cabelas bargain cave and told Remington that they can take a flying leap and that they would never get my money again.
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RE: Remington 870 Express (What happend to Remington?)
ORIGINAL: vabyrd
It's not just necessarily a function issue. Look at the fit and finish, nothing like it was.
It's not just necessarily a function issue. Look at the fit and finish, nothing like it was.
They have slowly sneaked in total crap these days.
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Fork Horn
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Southeastern Ohio
Posts: 118
RE: Remington 870 Express (What happend to Remington?)
i agree with all of u, u take any gun these days, or anything for that matter, there all made like crap, there just the output of companys taking short cuts to save a dollar and stick it to us. u even look at a car or truck these days, theres alot of plastic that never use to be there, IMO everything is going to crap
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,519
RE: Remington 870 Express (What happend to Remington?)
I have a Remington 870 Express Super Magnum in a 12 gauge I got around 2 and a half years ago. Well a little longer than that but not quite 3 years yet. I had the same problem only it only did it with 2 3/4" shells. Federals worked fine but the Winchester 2 3/4" shells would do that. On 3" and 3 1/2" shells I never had the pump lock up like that but honestly it jams all the time. You'd be lucky to shoot off 20 rounds without it jamming at least once or sometimes 2 or 3 times. You wouldn't shoot 20 rounds off of Winchester 2 3/4" rounds without it jamming every few shots. On the 3" and 3 1/2" it was random jamming like the shell not ejecting all the way or turning sideways or not catching on the old shell and trying to send a new one in while the old shell was still in the barrel. Just random stuff like that never locking the pump up like it did with the others. I finally read that article and got a gun smith to clean the chamber of the barrel up and it works perfect with Winchester 2 3/4" shells now. I shot a box of 25 up with no jams and it did it every 3 shots or so before. I've not had it jam with any other shells I don't think now but I haven't shot many 3" or 3 1/2" shells through it since. I hope it fixed that issue too though. I've had several guys I hunt with tell me they have never seen a pump gun have as many problems as mine. I'm hoping I've got the problems worked out as I like the feel of the gun.
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RE: Remington 870 Express (What happend to Remington?)
ORIGINAL: matt6506
IMO everything is going to crap
IMO everything is going to crap