sst vs. core lokt
#21
I don't think it's necessarily fair just to compare the core lokt and SST bullets without considering the factory ammo in which they're loaded. The core lokt is a killer bullet, nice medium game bullet, even though it doesn't typically tout a very respectable BC. But, it's cross to bear is the low end factory loading that carries it. The Hornady SST is typically found in factory ammo with much higher degree of quality control.
If you luck out and your rifle likes the Remington fodder, the core lokt will deliver. Won't have the best ballistics, and you'll likely see stringing from a pretty high ES (in my experience), but it will flatten deer.
The Hornady 'premium' ammo will usually be more accurate in a broader spectrum of rifles, just for the level of quality you are buying. Reloaders that neck turn will quickly see the difference in brass quality, and anyone with a chrony can see the difference in load regularity (ES).
I personally prefer the design of the SST, as I generally see better uniformity in performance across a wide velocity spectrum at impact. At 100yrds or 600yrds, it's going to deliver a killing expansion. I have had only one rifle that I shot core lots past 400yrds, and getting expansion at low impact velocities seemed to be a challenge.
Some guys are satisfied that a 3" group at 100yrds will kill a deer, some aren't. Some guys want to maximize their mpbr, some only hunt to 200yrds anyway. To each their own.
If you luck out and your rifle likes the Remington fodder, the core lokt will deliver. Won't have the best ballistics, and you'll likely see stringing from a pretty high ES (in my experience), but it will flatten deer.
The Hornady 'premium' ammo will usually be more accurate in a broader spectrum of rifles, just for the level of quality you are buying. Reloaders that neck turn will quickly see the difference in brass quality, and anyone with a chrony can see the difference in load regularity (ES).
I personally prefer the design of the SST, as I generally see better uniformity in performance across a wide velocity spectrum at impact. At 100yrds or 600yrds, it's going to deliver a killing expansion. I have had only one rifle that I shot core lots past 400yrds, and getting expansion at low impact velocities seemed to be a challenge.
Some guys are satisfied that a 3" group at 100yrds will kill a deer, some aren't. Some guys want to maximize their mpbr, some only hunt to 200yrds anyway. To each their own.
#22
SST's are good bullets that perform well on deer sized animals and they shoot very good but just because they are a interlock bullet dont be suprised to see core jacket seperation. In the last two deer I shot with SST's in my 280 using 154gr. SST's I have had core jacket seperation. The wound channel was very impressive and the jacket mushroomed perfectly but there was no core to be found, they did there job but if I was to shoot anything bigger than a deer I woold choose the Hornady Interbond.
#23
wasn't the hunters it was they're wives, grandad always kept a raw ball in his shirt pocket, if he missed a shot, he would recharge, stick his shirtail over the muzzle, get the ball from his pocket, start it and use his patchknife to just cut the patch off...grandma had to patch his shirt! she made mention of having to patch his shirts even after her 100th birthday in 2000, grandpa had been dead 50 years by then.
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#24
for the record I don't like corelocts, had I think 3 instances out of 30 or so that the bullet didn't exit but didn't impart enough energy for a kill on high shoulder shots, so I had a downed live deer to deal with. 2 out of the 3 was a 140 7mm/08. never shot but a few sst's but the core locts were lacking IMO
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#25
Spike
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 2
The biggest difference you're going to see is in the grouping size. Hornady's accuracy standard for their SSTs is three-quarters of an inch at 100 yards. As a press operator for Hornady, our bullets have to meet this standard before we can start the run on any new shop order. We then have to reshoot them every 100,000 rounds to ensure they are still meeting this standard. Remington's Core-lokts have a required grouping of 1.5 inches at 100 yards if I remember correctly. So while shooting inside of 100 yds there isn't much difference, the longer range shots will start showing a noticeable difference in accuracy. As far as expansion, the SSTs are a little more consistent from bullet to bullet, but for the most part, bullet expansion is pretty similar between Remington, Hornady, and Winchester. If you really want a noticeable difference in performance across every metric, I would have to suggest looking into Hornady's ELD-X line. They're shot for match-grade accuracy, have a far more consistent expansion and penetration, and you will experience far less carbon fouling.
#26
The biggest difference you're going to see is in the grouping size. Hornady's accuracy standard for their SSTs is three-quarters of an inch at 100 yards. As a press operator for Hornady, our bullets have to meet this standard before we can start the run on any new shop order. We then have to reshoot them every 100,000 rounds to ensure they are still meeting this standard. Remington's Core-lokts have a required grouping of 1.5 inches at 100 yards if I remember correctly. So while shooting inside of 100 yds there isn't much difference, the longer range shots will start showing a noticeable difference in accuracy. As far as expansion, the SSTs are a little more consistent from bullet to bullet, but for the most part, bullet expansion is pretty similar between Remington, Hornady, and Winchester. If you really want a noticeable difference in performance across every metric, I would have to suggest looking into Hornady's ELD-X line. They're shot for match-grade accuracy, have a far more consistent expansion and penetration, and you will experience far less carbon fouling.
#27
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: texas
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just a few observations.
the bullet does all the lethal damage, and it must penetrate deeply and expand consistently to give good results.
the vast majority of all big game is killed at under 250-yard ranges.
after watching a couple of dozen guys hunt deer and elk successfully in our hunting club,
for over 5 decades and helping dress out a great many of those deer, and elk.
I have to point out that the majority of hunters are NOT great at precise shot placement.
they might be able to shoot 1" 100 yard groups off a bench rest at 100 yards but in the field, not so much.
it takes experience and practice to know and accept your personal limitations.
Ive also noticed a that the guys using the rifles with the bullets with about a .240 or greater sectional density
and velocities under about 3000 fps seem to have better and more consistent results
and caliber is not the deciding factor, its shot placement and a bullet designed to penetrate and expand consistently.
most bullet manufacturers produce decent quality bullets but the medium heavy for caliber to heavy for caliber designs,
tend to give more consistent results, from what Ive seen dressing out dozens of deer and elk.
example
one old geezer has used a 257 roberts with 115grain noslers and 120 grain speer grand slams, he's had 5 one shot kills on elk
one of my best friends uses a 358 win and 250 grain speers exclusively, hes had over 12 elk down with a single well placed shot in the last 40 years,
another guy I regularly hunt with has a 308 win BLR, loaded with 180grain hornady interlock bullets hes hunted successfully with that combo for 40 years plus
https://www.vcalc.com/wiki/MichaelBa...tional+Density
just from observing what works consistently,
Id suggest using a fairly heavy for caliber projectile, and not be all that concerned with max velocity.
the guys I see have the problems are generally not great field shots and many seem obsessed with high velocity and extreme range,
most of them could not consistently hit a coke can at 200 yards even once shooting from a field position if given 3 tries
the bullet does all the lethal damage, and it must penetrate deeply and expand consistently to give good results.
the vast majority of all big game is killed at under 250-yard ranges.
after watching a couple of dozen guys hunt deer and elk successfully in our hunting club,
for over 5 decades and helping dress out a great many of those deer, and elk.
I have to point out that the majority of hunters are NOT great at precise shot placement.
they might be able to shoot 1" 100 yard groups off a bench rest at 100 yards but in the field, not so much.
it takes experience and practice to know and accept your personal limitations.
Ive also noticed a that the guys using the rifles with the bullets with about a .240 or greater sectional density
and velocities under about 3000 fps seem to have better and more consistent results
and caliber is not the deciding factor, its shot placement and a bullet designed to penetrate and expand consistently.
most bullet manufacturers produce decent quality bullets but the medium heavy for caliber to heavy for caliber designs,
tend to give more consistent results, from what Ive seen dressing out dozens of deer and elk.
example
one old geezer has used a 257 roberts with 115grain noslers and 120 grain speer grand slams, he's had 5 one shot kills on elk
one of my best friends uses a 358 win and 250 grain speers exclusively, hes had over 12 elk down with a single well placed shot in the last 40 years,
another guy I regularly hunt with has a 308 win BLR, loaded with 180grain hornady interlock bullets hes hunted successfully with that combo for 40 years plus
https://www.vcalc.com/wiki/MichaelBa...tional+Density
just from observing what works consistently,
Id suggest using a fairly heavy for caliber projectile, and not be all that concerned with max velocity.
the guys I see have the problems are generally not great field shots and many seem obsessed with high velocity and extreme range,
most of them could not consistently hit a coke can at 200 yards even once shooting from a field position if given 3 tries
Last edited by hardcastonly; 05-15-2020 at 08:03 AM.
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