RECOIL ?
05-31-2008, 08:40 AM
#12
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: El Dorado, Arkansas
Posts: 2,174
RE: RECOIL ?
Don't sweat it brother, none of us are THAT perfect .... though some might like to think it.
Your numbers were close enough in my book. Heaven forbid anyone is ever .1 ft / lb, or so, off on something. And we should all give up if we are 1 or 2 % off in our guesstimate.
God Bless
MET
Your numbers were close enough in my book. Heaven forbid anyone is ever .1 ft / lb, or so, off on something. And we should all give up if we are 1 or 2 % off in our guesstimate.
God Bless
MET
05-31-2008, 09:07 AM
#13
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 179
RE: RECOIL ?
Im 14 years old and i can shoot a 30-06 w/muzzle break with ease.
Mysavage has a muzzle break that you can turn on and off if you decide you dont like it.
The muzzle breakcame with the gun and i purchasedthe gunfor $400
Mysavage has a muzzle break that you can turn on and off if you decide you dont like it.
The muzzle breakcame with the gun and i purchasedthe gunfor $400
05-31-2008, 09:15 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,476
RE: RECOIL ?
I have Savage 110 in 30/06 and shoot 165 gr's out of it. I also have a Steyr Mannlicher 1903 in 7 X 57, and i shoot 140 grain handloads out of it. The loads I cook for it are moderate velocity, so the comparison to the factory 30/06 and my moderate speed handloaded 7 X 57 will be decent.
I will tell you that the difference is noticable enough that a session at the range with the lighter recoiling Steyr is very much appreciated. I can handle either nicely as they fit me well, but the 7 X 57 is a pleasure to shoot. I know that's not the same as the 7mm/08, but somewhat in the ballpark.
I will tell you that the difference is noticable enough that a session at the range with the lighter recoiling Steyr is very much appreciated. I can handle either nicely as they fit me well, but the 7 X 57 is a pleasure to shoot. I know that's not the same as the 7mm/08, but somewhat in the ballpark.
05-31-2008, 01:26 PM
#15
Typical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 882
RE: RECOIL ?
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/lonewolf5347/30-06target001.jpg
the 30-06 is already on the low end of FPS the above is IMR 4350 50.0 grains 2300 FPS
My other load that shoot as good as the above is IMR 3031 44.5 I yet to shoot the centerfire rifle but i did get out and try my 38-55 my load is 262 grain cast and 28.0 grains of IMR 3031 recoil is this cal. is mild fps around 1450
I still won't handle a centerfire rifle for a few more months :The surgery did removing 2 disk from my neck C5 threw C7 I have to say about 60 percent better then what it use to be.I find the stiffness more of a problem then the push of the rifle.I am going to try my 50 cal M/L before I get back into rifle shooting .
I would jump on the 7x57 mauser round again but H@R stop making that cal. some time back in the barrel add on program.I think I will send my action out on monday and have them fit the 7MM-08 to the action
the 30-06 is already on the low end of FPS the above is IMR 4350 50.0 grains 2300 FPS
My other load that shoot as good as the above is IMR 3031 44.5 I yet to shoot the centerfire rifle but i did get out and try my 38-55 my load is 262 grain cast and 28.0 grains of IMR 3031 recoil is this cal. is mild fps around 1450
I still won't handle a centerfire rifle for a few more months :The surgery did removing 2 disk from my neck C5 threw C7 I have to say about 60 percent better then what it use to be.I find the stiffness more of a problem then the push of the rifle.I am going to try my 50 cal M/L before I get back into rifle shooting .
I would jump on the 7x57 mauser round again but H@R stop making that cal. some time back in the barrel add on program.I think I will send my action out on monday and have them fit the 7MM-08 to the action
05-31-2008, 06:17 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
RE: RECOIL ?
Recoil can be attributed to several factors. Cartridge selection is just one of the variables. For some one to say that a 30-06 has a certain percentage of felt recoil, as compared to a 7-08, without taking into account all the felt recoil factors is just flat out wrong to do.
Factors that effect felt recoil:
1. Cartridge selection
2. Rifle weight
3. Stock design
4. Recoil reducers
5.Porting
6. Even the shooting technique of the shooter himself.
For some one to say that a 140 grain 7-08 does not recoil is erroneous. Or flat out wrong. If all things are equal then a 140 will recoil less than a 165 in a 30-06, but rarely are all things equal.
You can reduce felt recoil considerably by going to a thumb hole stock. I shoot 165 grain bullets in my 30-06 with a well designed thumb hole stocked Encore. Recoil is very manageable.
There are very many ways to reduce recoil and still shoot a 30-06. If you truly need to do away with recoil then you need to drop down to a 223 Remington. Even a 22-250 has noticably more recoil than the 223. Tom.
Factors that effect felt recoil:
1. Cartridge selection
2. Rifle weight
3. Stock design
4. Recoil reducers
5.Porting
6. Even the shooting technique of the shooter himself.
For some one to say that a 140 grain 7-08 does not recoil is erroneous. Or flat out wrong. If all things are equal then a 140 will recoil less than a 165 in a 30-06, but rarely are all things equal.
You can reduce felt recoil considerably by going to a thumb hole stock. I shoot 165 grain bullets in my 30-06 with a well designed thumb hole stocked Encore. Recoil is very manageable.
There are very many ways to reduce recoil and still shoot a 30-06. If you truly need to do away with recoil then you need to drop down to a 223 Remington. Even a 22-250 has noticably more recoil than the 223. Tom.
05-31-2008, 07:27 PM
#18
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,679
RE: RECOIL ?
For some one to say that a 30-06 has a certain percentage of felt recoil, as compared to a 7-08, without taking into account all the felt recoil factors is just flat out wrong to do.
And didn't get to the end of that sentence or the next.
..........assuming they are fired out of the same rifle.... IE: both shot out of a Remington 700 CDL.
05-31-2008, 10:30 PM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Baileysville, WV
Posts: 2,925
RE: RECOIL ?
To echo bigbulls sentiments I hunted for several years with a 30-06 using 180 and 165's. I now flip back and forth between a 7-08, 270 win, and 300 Sav. The 7-08 has significantly LESS recoil than the 06 and noticeably less than the 270 and just a touch lessthan the 300 Sav. You'd never hear any complaints on the 7-08 from me. Its an outstanding deer round...at least for me.
05-31-2008, 11:53 PM
#20
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 12,181
RE: RECOIL ?
ORIGINAL: bigbulls
12.5foot pounds for the 7mm-08 vs. about 19 for the 30-06 is 65%. could be more could be less. I was a touch high but was just guestimating in my head. [8D]
12.5foot pounds for the 7mm-08 vs. about 19 for the 30-06 is 65%. could be more could be less. I was a touch high but was just guestimating in my head. [8D]
Michael... Going through all that sarcasm regarding my post, followed by "God bless" to bigbulls seems just a tad incongruous...