.380
05-26-2008, 08:20 AM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,363
RE: .380
I have a colt 380 and that is my ccw, I also have a browning 9mm and a couple 45's but they are just too big and bulky for my liking. I have never concerned myself with whether it is big enough or not, when I was in high school I worked in a morgue part time and let me say this a .22 willterminate someone if needed.....
05-26-2008, 08:22 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WY
Posts: 2,056
RE: .380
Generally, when one refers to a cartridge as ".308" here on the forum, most of us think ".308 Winchester", not ".308 Norma Magnum". Same thing goes for "9mm".
The COMMON reference to "9mm" anymore is the "9mm Pararbellum", or "9x19mm NATO", not the "9mm Largo/9x23mm."
Though some will errantly say "caliber" when they mean "chambering" or "cartridge", most of the postings above clearly indicate a discussion regarding cartridges.
The COMMON reference to "9mm" anymore is the "9mm Pararbellum", or "9x19mm NATO", not the "9mm Largo/9x23mm."
Though some will errantly say "caliber" when they mean "chambering" or "cartridge", most of the postings above clearly indicate a discussion regarding cartridges.
05-26-2008, 12:12 PM
#13
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blissfield MI USA
Posts: 5,293
RE: .380
ORIGINAL: Maine Shooter
No kiddin'! However, the statement was that the 9mm was bigger. I took that as pertaining to caliber as I'm sure most would not cartridge length. Very seldom is cartridge length a real selling point or topical discussion where energy and terminal performance is the topic. That said, I responded by simply stating that the common 9mmParabellm cartridge and the .380 ACP cartrdge which was the original topic are both the same size caliber. Both are .355 caliber, not one being bigger as was posted.
Cartridge length is not automatically a "bigger= more power" anymore than larger calibers automatically equaling more power.
Same bullet different cartridge. I didn't say the 9mmParabellum would chamber in a .380. I stated they were indeed the same caliber.
No kiddin'! However, the statement was that the 9mm was bigger. I took that as pertaining to caliber as I'm sure most would not cartridge length. Very seldom is cartridge length a real selling point or topical discussion where energy and terminal performance is the topic. That said, I responded by simply stating that the common 9mmParabellm cartridge and the .380 ACP cartrdge which was the original topic are both the same size caliber. Both are .355 caliber, not one being bigger as was posted.
Cartridge length is not automatically a "bigger= more power" anymore than larger calibers automatically equaling more power.
Similar bullet, different cart.
When comparing federal's Hydroshock loadings the .380 is slightly less powerful than a .38 special. Getting similar velocities out of a lighter bullet. When you step up to the 9mm you can get the same velocity with a bullet that is almost 50 grns heavier. Not to mention the availability of 9mm ammo and probably less cost as well. And with some +P loads you can get similar ballistics to a standard .357 mag.
The Walther .380s are nice guns though, I owned one for a while. My only complaint was that it wasn't very accurate. After owning both, for me I would opt for a compact 9mm over the 380.
Paul
05-26-2008, 03:04 PM
#14
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 3,145
RE: .380
ORIGINAL: Maine Shooter
Same bullet different cartridge. I didn't say the 9mm Parabellum would chamber in a .380. I stated they were indeed the same caliber.
Same bullet different cartridge. I didn't say the 9mm Parabellum would chamber in a .380. I stated they were indeed the same caliber.
05-26-2008, 03:41 PM
#15
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: El Dorado, Arkansas
Posts: 2,174
RE: .380
ORIGINAL: BigTiny
Relax, I was just giving you a little grief. I just like the 9mm because it has little more punch. Having been shot with both a .380 and a 9mm, I can tell you the 9 is a better way to go. I carry a 9 mainly because my wife can shoot it easily. When she tried the .40 at the range, it was a bit much for her, so I got the Glock 26 so we could both carry it. I don't think I'll ever get her to shoot the .41 mag.
ORIGINAL: Maine Shooter
Same bullet different cartridge. I didn't say the 9mmParabellum would chamber in a .380. I stated they were indeed the same caliber.
Same bullet different cartridge. I didn't say the 9mmParabellum would chamber in a .380. I stated they were indeed the same caliber.
MET
05-27-2008, 08:18 AM
#17
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 3,145
RE: .380
ORIGINAL: MichaelT.
Woaw ... dude.... Big tiny ... you been shot with both a .380 and a 9mm ...??? And you are still letting the wife handle your guns..... mannnnn we need to talk...
MET
ORIGINAL: BigTiny
Relax, I was just giving you a little grief. I just like the 9mm because it has little more punch. Having been shot with both a .380 and a 9mm, I can tell you the 9 is a better way to go. I carry a 9 mainly because my wife can shoot it easily. When she tried the .40 at the range, it was a bit much for her, so I got the Glock 26 so we could both carry it. I don't think I'll ever get her to shoot the .41 mag.
ORIGINAL: Maine Shooter
Same bullet different cartridge. I didn't say the 9mm Parabellum would chamber in a .380. I stated they were indeed the same caliber.
Same bullet different cartridge. I didn't say the 9mm Parabellum would chamber in a .380. I stated they were indeed the same caliber.
MET
05-27-2008, 01:59 PM
#18
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 72
RE: .380
Carry a gun that you will carry! A gun you leave in the car or in the safe at homeis no good to you. I have a 9mm, a 357 revolver, and a sub-compact380. I bought the 9mm & 357 first but found I was leaving them at home and even though they arecompact models,they still made me uncomfortable as they were bulkier and heavier. Now, I almost always carry the 380 because I can slip in the pocket of my shorts or inside a windbreaker and it is not noticable and is light to carry.
Anyway, I'm not looking to get into a gun fight and don't hang around some of the less desirable areas of town, so I just want something to fall back on if the unexpected happens.
Anyway, I'm not looking to get into a gun fight and don't hang around some of the less desirable areas of town, so I just want something to fall back on if the unexpected happens.
05-27-2008, 08:36 PM
#19
Typical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
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Posts: 585
RE: .380
Texas Bow Hunter Quote: "I have a colt 380 and that is my ccw, I also have a browning 9mm and a couple 45's but they are just too big and bulky for my liking. I have never concerned myself with whether it is big enough or not, when I was in high school I worked in a morgue part time and let me say this a .22 willterminate someone if needed..... "
The morgue? Dude, they were already dead when you shot them!
The morgue? Dude, they were already dead when you shot them!
05-28-2008, 06:59 AM
#20
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SE Wisc
Posts: 677
RE: .380
I have a Bersa 380, and it's a great little CCW gun. Nothing wrong with a 380 IMO. Yes there are bigger badder rounds but then they guns that shoot them are bigger and harder to conceal. With today's ammo choices, the 380 can be a good round for a carry gun. I believe Corbon makes a good defense round for the 380.
And the 380 is nothing more/less than a "9mm short" basically. I would NOT shy away from the 380 if it's a gun you can conceal and shoot well.
And the 380 is nothing more/less than a "9mm short" basically. I would NOT shy away from the 380 if it's a gun you can conceal and shoot well.