Gee I am really shocked with this news
01-05-2008, 05:45 AM
#11
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Gee I am really shocked with this news
Model 700 safeties don't exactly have a stellar safety record.
01-05-2008, 08:03 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Gee I am really shocked with this news
ORIGINAL: oldelkhunter
http://www.remington.com/safety/model_710_notice/ They need to send their owners a rebate check for 300 dollars and be done with this mess
http://www.remington.com/safety/model_710_notice/ They need to send their owners a rebate check for 300 dollars and be done with this mess
01-05-2008, 09:04 AM
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RE: Gee I am really shocked with this news
ding ding ding we have a winner
any time i hand some one agun or hand one my self i check recheck and check again to make sure it is unload.
2I never point a gun at anything i do not wont to kill and up to now that has not been a person.
A gun should never be handled loaded unless at a range or in the woods.
Thinking thethe safety on nothing can happen is what gets people killed even if it is not defective.
I was showing my uncle my new 500 and i keep it on my wall and with a lock on it but i noticed the safety was off so iput it in the safe position.?Buti also keep it unloaded. And to date i have never fired a gun without wonting to
any time i hand some one agun or hand one my self i check recheck and check again to make sure it is unload.
2I never point a gun at anything i do not wont to kill and up to now that has not been a person.
A gun should never be handled loaded unless at a range or in the woods.
Thinking thethe safety on nothing can happen is what gets people killed even if it is not defective.
I was showing my uncle my new 500 and i keep it on my wall and with a lock on it but i noticed the safety was off so iput it in the safe position.?Buti also keep it unloaded. And to date i have never fired a gun without wonting to
ORIGINAL: PAhunter86
If people always keep their rifles pointed in a safe direction, it shouldn't matter. Finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
Never rely on a safety.
If people always keep their rifles pointed in a safe direction, it shouldn't matter. Finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
Never rely on a safety.
01-05-2008, 01:34 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Gee I am really shocked with this news
Okay, so let's say you are perfect --- the muzzle wasn't pointed at a person, but you flip the safety off and the rifle goes off (the 700 accident pattern per the lawsuits)....
-- How impressed are you going to be with your rifle in the midst of your surprise? Are your excuses going to hold up?
--How impressed are your hunting partners going to be with you, regardless whether the bullet flew off into the sky(muzzleblast to their ears)or into the dirt (putting mud onto their jacket)
-- What are you going to think when your guide takes you back to camp and puts you on the first planeback homebecause he considers you unsafe?
How well will your simplistic excuses fly then?
IMHO.... poorly! Of course, you can always refer any of the above back to this thread so you can show them how right you are. Not likely to hold water though.
-- How impressed are you going to be with your rifle in the midst of your surprise? Are your excuses going to hold up?
--How impressed are your hunting partners going to be with you, regardless whether the bullet flew off into the sky(muzzleblast to their ears)or into the dirt (putting mud onto their jacket)
-- What are you going to think when your guide takes you back to camp and puts you on the first planeback homebecause he considers you unsafe?
How well will your simplistic excuses fly then?
IMHO.... poorly! Of course, you can always refer any of the above back to this thread so you can show them how right you are. Not likely to hold water though.
01-05-2008, 07:07 PM
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RE: Gee I am really shocked with this news
If people always keep their rifles pointed in a safe direction, it shouldn't matter. Finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
Never rely on a safety.
Never rely on a safety.
01-05-2008, 07:09 PM
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RE: Gee I am really shocked with this news
Wasn't the 700's safety issue corrected years ago?
YOu mean the lawsuits were settled a few years back. As for the fix it was simple ..they didn't allow the bolt handle to lock anymore in the rear position. Some evidently can tolerate this but I won't have it or deal with it anymore.
01-05-2008, 07:38 PM
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RE: Gee I am really shocked with this news
i was not making excuses for Remington's lack of good rifles i doubt i will ever buy one hearing that. You get what you pay for well hopefully.
If i had a gun that might even do that it would make a one way trip back to the manufacture
If i was with someone that that happen to doubt i would hunt with them again.
I did have a similar thing happen. Me and my dad was at a range and he was loading the 3030 and racked a round to load the 7th round and hit the trigger blow the end off our case it was sitting on . and i was two feet to the right and one back . i thought i was going to piss my self
Again you get what you pay for buy something cheap and it might just kill you .
If i had a gun that might even do that it would make a one way trip back to the manufacture
If i was with someone that that happen to doubt i would hunt with them again.
I did have a similar thing happen. Me and my dad was at a range and he was loading the 3030 and racked a round to load the 7th round and hit the trigger blow the end off our case it was sitting on . and i was two feet to the right and one back . i thought i was going to piss my self
Again you get what you pay for buy something cheap and it might just kill you .
ORIGINAL: EKM
Okay, so let's say you are perfect --- the muzzle wasn't pointed at a person, but you flip the safety off and the rifle goes off (the 700 accident pattern per the lawsuits)....
-- How impressed are you going to be with your rifle in the midst of your surprise? Are your excuses going to hold up?
--How impressed are your hunting partners going to be with you, regardless whether the bullet flew off into the sky(muzzleblast to their ears)or into the dirt (putting mud onto their jacket)
-- What are you going to think when your guide takes you back to camp and puts you on the first planeback homebecause he considers you unsafe?
How well will your simplistic excuses fly then?
IMHO.... poorly! Of course, you can always refer any of the above back to this thread so you can show them how right you are. Not likely to hold water though.
Okay, so let's say you are perfect --- the muzzle wasn't pointed at a person, but you flip the safety off and the rifle goes off (the 700 accident pattern per the lawsuits)....
-- How impressed are you going to be with your rifle in the midst of your surprise? Are your excuses going to hold up?
--How impressed are your hunting partners going to be with you, regardless whether the bullet flew off into the sky(muzzleblast to their ears)or into the dirt (putting mud onto their jacket)
-- What are you going to think when your guide takes you back to camp and puts you on the first planeback homebecause he considers you unsafe?
How well will your simplistic excuses fly then?
IMHO.... poorly! Of course, you can always refer any of the above back to this thread so you can show them how right you are. Not likely to hold water though.
01-05-2008, 07:43 PM
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Fork Horn
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RE: Gee I am really shocked with this news
It seems to that Remington has let the quality go by the way side to remain competetive I have handeled and shot several new Remington rifles in the last 2-3 years I am not impressed at all I have several older Remington's mostly BDL varmints and I wouldnt trade them for anything but I think I will pass on the new ones just my opinion chad