700 Remington BDL in 30.06
#11
RE: 700 Remington BDL in 30.06
Thanks for the help guys. FWIW I tried 165 gr. Federal Fusions tonight and they were alright. Got clover leafs at 25 yards, but then it was around 2-3" or more at 100 yards. Pie plate groups. I see all these people on herewriting of accuracy right around MOA or less. Am Ibeing unrealistic to think I can obtain accuracy around MOA or just above with my wooden stock BDL? Next stop I'm thinking about trying 180's. Then who knows. Maybe I'm just being picky.
#12
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: West Liberty Iowa USA
Posts: 124
RE: 700 Remington BDL in 30.06
2"-3" at 100 yds is OK hunting accuracy. I am assuming you are shooting from a rest? What kind of rest? sand bags? front and rear?There are a lot of variables to shooting small groups. Bench rest guys stress over the tiny details. How do you shoot from field positions? off hand? that is the real test of wether you want to hunt with this rifle or not. You mentioned you have already killed a deer with it, apparently it shoots well enough to do that. As I said before, both of my 700s shoot decent groups, but I wouldn't be shy at all about hunting with either one with any of the loads I have tried in them. The important thing is to know where the rifle shoots at any given distance, and be confident in using it. I bought a nicely sporterized P-17 Eddystone at an auction several years ago. It has a redfield Peep on it, and I decided I would learn to use it rather than go to a scope. When I took it to the range, I discovered after a few rounds, the thing was sighted about 18" high at 100yds. Since it was dead on for windage, I assumed the former owner intened it to be that way. I called him when I got home to ask about it. This guy was in his late eightes and he had built the rifle himself. When I asked what distance he had it sighted at, he thought for minute and said " I think it should be dead on at 600yd". He had built the rifle for hunting out west in the mountains, and sighted it for maximum distance, and learned where it shot between here and there. The point I am trying to make is, accuracy is a matter of what you make it. Sounds like your rifle shoots OK, you may not win a bench rest match with it, but I don't think that was your intention. If you can, do some shooting at 200yds, my personal test of wether I take a rifle hunting is, if I can nail a milk jug off hand at 200yds. That is the longest range I have available, so it is the longest range I can practice at. It also happens to be the limit of my real abilty to judge distance accurately with out a range finder.Good huntin'
BTW, I re-sighted that Eddystone for 100yds : )
BTW, I re-sighted that Eddystone for 100yds : )
#13
RE: 700 Remington BDL in 30.06
ORIGINAL: Troutman10
I bought myrifle last fall and shot my first deer with it Nov. 1st '06 at about 60-70 yards. I've been shooting all summer long to get used to it and to get more practice. I've mainly been shooting 150 gr. Winchester Super X Power Points with alright accuracy and tried some Federal Fusions in the same grain and same result. Does anyone else have a similar gun and reccomend a specific load that I'll get better accuracy? I'll be hunting and my furthest shot will be around 150 yards (maybe 200), but could also shoot something around 25-50 yards as well. I hear the Federal vital shokw/ Nosler ballistic tips are good. Just curious to see if anyone has something they think I should try for a little better accuracy. Thanks in advance.
I bought myrifle last fall and shot my first deer with it Nov. 1st '06 at about 60-70 yards. I've been shooting all summer long to get used to it and to get more practice. I've mainly been shooting 150 gr. Winchester Super X Power Points with alright accuracy and tried some Federal Fusions in the same grain and same result. Does anyone else have a similar gun and reccomend a specific load that I'll get better accuracy? I'll be hunting and my furthest shot will be around 150 yards (maybe 200), but could also shoot something around 25-50 yards as well. I hear the Federal vital shokw/ Nosler ballistic tips are good. Just curious to see if anyone has something they think I should try for a little better accuracy. Thanks in advance.
The ONLY reliable way you can be assured of uniformly excellent performance is to work up a handload using the bullet of choice in your rifle with components you can duplicate in the future.
Another approach, although not as effective, is to test all the varieties of factory ammo you can get with the type and weight of bullet you want to use. And, after you identify the very best load, buy at least a case lot of the SAME LOT NUMBER of that ammo so you don't have to go thru the testing process every year. Store ammo in a cool, dry environment! It will last longer than you will......
#14
RE: 700 Remington BDL in 30.06
I've heard the Federal Nosler Ballistic Tips work quite well. Would it be reasonable to use this bullet between 30-150 yards (200 at most)? I am up for trying anything at this point that will helpme get better groups. Didn't know of the ballistic bullet would expand as well as other traditional bullets. I know the tip helps obtain better accuracy. I'm not as knowledgable about types of bullets if someone can help me out. Thanks again.