30-40 Krag questions
#11
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 30-40 Krag questions
I found this article by googling "Remington-Lee Rifle" Sounds like falcon may have hit on what you wil be using this fall. Doesn't show a picture, but the desription in the article kinda sounds like what you're describing. I'm still surfing a some pics
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_2_50/ai_112128011
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_2_50/ai_112128011
#12
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RE: 30-40 Krag questions
THis pic shows a little of the butt end and middle of a Remington Lee Rifle
http://www.antiquefirearms.com/images/laus/reminglee3.jpg
http://www.antiquefirearms.com/images/laus/reminglee3.jpg
#13
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RE: 30-40 Krag questions
Falcon -- 8mm
Thanks a bunch you guys!! I think this is the exact rifle that grandpa had.
Dave Andersons description of his grandpa's rifle is almost word for word the description I would use. Right down to the right down to the first shooting at age 11!
8mm i'm surethe pic in your last post shows the same action that is on this rifle, but the stock is different. Mine has more of a pistol grip with some worn down checkering (again like Mr. Anderson's).
Reading the Mr. Andersons account of the history of his rifle makes me wonder about the things mine has seen. I remember being at Grandpa's cabin in Leota, MI. Someone remarked that it was a pretty nice deer camp. Grandpa replied "yeah, but if it could talk, I'd have to burn it down."
No doubt his rifle had the same colorful past!
Thanks again
Thanks a bunch you guys!! I think this is the exact rifle that grandpa had.
Dave Andersons description of his grandpa's rifle is almost word for word the description I would use. Right down to the right down to the first shooting at age 11!
8mm i'm surethe pic in your last post shows the same action that is on this rifle, but the stock is different. Mine has more of a pistol grip with some worn down checkering (again like Mr. Anderson's).
Reading the Mr. Andersons account of the history of his rifle makes me wonder about the things mine has seen. I remember being at Grandpa's cabin in Leota, MI. Someone remarked that it was a pretty nice deer camp. Grandpa replied "yeah, but if it could talk, I'd have to burn it down."
No doubt his rifle had the same colorful past!
Thanks again
#14
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RE: 30-40 Krag questions
You're very welcome
Here's is a piece of the article I'm quoting that talks about the Remighton Lee Rifle sporter, which sounds like what you grandpa's gun is ...
"Remington-Lee sporters were offered with 24-or 26-inch round barrels. This rifle, with its rather beefy 24-inch barrel weighs 8 pounds 10 ounces empty. It has the optional Lyman cocking piece peep sight. Another unusual feature is the curved steel "rifle" buttplate; sporters usually were fitted with flat, shotgun-type buttplates. The half-pistol grip carries fairly good quality, flat-topped checkering. Drop at comb and heel are a bit excessive by modern standards, but for iron sight use the stock fits me perfectly. In design and features it is a surprisingly modern rifle, much ahead of its time."
I too have a spot in my heart and locker for older guns, as my own grandfather was a gunsmith and made a good living, expecially sporterizing military actions and rifles. I have one of his best Model 98 variants in 8mm/06, hence my handle. I only recently drilled and tapped it since my eye-sight has been waning in the last 5 years, but it still needs a few tweaks to get it the way I want it for the woods. Currently it holds the #1 spot in the best gun locker out of respect.
Good luck with you UP season, and I hope (whether you bag a deer or not) that you can form some lasting memories lugging around the old rifle from another era.
Here's is a piece of the article I'm quoting that talks about the Remighton Lee Rifle sporter, which sounds like what you grandpa's gun is ...
"Remington-Lee sporters were offered with 24-or 26-inch round barrels. This rifle, with its rather beefy 24-inch barrel weighs 8 pounds 10 ounces empty. It has the optional Lyman cocking piece peep sight. Another unusual feature is the curved steel "rifle" buttplate; sporters usually were fitted with flat, shotgun-type buttplates. The half-pistol grip carries fairly good quality, flat-topped checkering. Drop at comb and heel are a bit excessive by modern standards, but for iron sight use the stock fits me perfectly. In design and features it is a surprisingly modern rifle, much ahead of its time."
I too have a spot in my heart and locker for older guns, as my own grandfather was a gunsmith and made a good living, expecially sporterizing military actions and rifles. I have one of his best Model 98 variants in 8mm/06, hence my handle. I only recently drilled and tapped it since my eye-sight has been waning in the last 5 years, but it still needs a few tweaks to get it the way I want it for the woods. Currently it holds the #1 spot in the best gun locker out of respect.
Good luck with you UP season, and I hope (whether you bag a deer or not) that you can form some lasting memories lugging around the old rifle from another era.
#15
RE: 30-40 Krag questions
James Paris Lee is, of course, also the designer of the actions used on a variety of British military rifles in .303 British, a round very similar to the .30/40 U.S.
Poor old Lee, an American, wasn't able to interest the U.S. Army in his rifle, which was vastly superior to the one that was in use here at the time (the Trapdoor Springfield in .45/70!!), so he went to England. The Brits bought his action design, but hung their own ideas of barrels on it (Metford, and later, the Enfield 5-groove barrels). These rifles evolved into what we call the SMLE, and the No. 4 rifle used in WWII by all the Commonwealth nations. (The best rapid-fire COMBAT bolt-action rifles ever issued. They were so good that during WWI, the Krauts thought they were being fired upon by machine guns when all it was was a company of Brits with SMLE's!)
IF YOU INDEED HAVE A REMINGTON-LEE, try your best to preserve it intact as it is today!
Good hunting!!
Poor old Lee, an American, wasn't able to interest the U.S. Army in his rifle, which was vastly superior to the one that was in use here at the time (the Trapdoor Springfield in .45/70!!), so he went to England. The Brits bought his action design, but hung their own ideas of barrels on it (Metford, and later, the Enfield 5-groove barrels). These rifles evolved into what we call the SMLE, and the No. 4 rifle used in WWII by all the Commonwealth nations. (The best rapid-fire COMBAT bolt-action rifles ever issued. They were so good that during WWI, the Krauts thought they were being fired upon by machine guns when all it was was a company of Brits with SMLE's!)
IF YOU INDEED HAVE A REMINGTON-LEE, try your best to preserve it intact as it is today!
Good hunting!!
#16
RE: 30-40 Krag questions
According to my index of gun articles, the Remington-Lee was covered in the Feb., 04 issue of "Guns" magazine. My issues are in my very hot attic. One day when it cools off a little i will search for that issue.
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RE: 30-40 Krag questions
If you are interested I have a 30-40 Krag Jorgensen Dated 1884 in 85 % finish that has a custom stock that is tiger stripe maple I will take $850.00 and I will pay shipping. If you want picslet me know and I will send them.