1SHOT_1KILL

I shoot a Savage 10ML-II, with smokeless powder and with 300gr XTP's.It has the recoil of a .270 Win or a .308 Win in a 7.5# rifle, even when pushing those 300gr XTPs out the muzzle at 2,200 FPS. The Savage 10ML-II is a very, very soft shooting muzzleloader.

Champlain Islander

If you go from 2 pellets to 3 hang on. It will kick pretty hard. Sends the bullet out at a great rate but accuracy can be an issue. I tried a bunch of different bullets and mine shoots well with 3 pellets and Barnes Expander MZ sabots in 250 gr.

rem 700

Very wrong. Many, many people use this combination for deer. Shooters of traditionalMLs may opt for bullets of 350+ grains and only use 60-90gr powder.Yeah, it's slow. Buta 350gr bullet doesn't care how fast it's going; it'll make a mess anyways.

I agree with you on T/C Muzzleloaders; I really like my Omega. The quality is great and it's accurate.

On the original question of recoil: assuming we're using an averageunscoped rifle with 100/250gr combination, the overall recoil could be compared to a 12g w/ a 3 1/2" waterfowl load. Not much recoil, but it'll still let you know it's there. The recoil isn't so much a sharp kick to the shoulder as a slower nudge.

younggun308

Another very good muzzleloader is the T/C Encore , it's easier to clean than the Omega, which is a plus, and they have great name recognition, the Encore is probably T/C's most popular muzzleloader ever made, and I'm quite shocked that no one here has mentioned it yet.

rem 700

Both areequally as easy cleaning the barrel, but the Omega is easier to take the breech plug out to clean. JMO.

younggun308

Really? I thought that since the Encore is a break-action, and the Omega isn't, the Encore would be easier.

tempehunter

I shoot teh exact same from my omega!! The recoil is not that bad, probably about the same as earlier stated a 3" from a 12ga. But alsovery accurate, 1-1/2" at 100 yds is common on mine with a good scope. Enjoy!!!!!!!!!

bobnan

I shoot a Traditions Yukon with 100grains and a 285 powerbelt. Recoil is not bad and very accrate.

Paul L Mohr

Recoil is going to depend on the particular rifle you get, how much it weighs, how it fits you and what powder you use.

And just because your gun can hold 150 grns of powder doesn't mean you have to use that much. Most I have seen don't shoot that well with a magnum charge. I use between 90 and 110 grns behind a 350 grn bullet depending on what powder I use. I have a Remington 700ml.

I have fired my gun with 120 grns of 777 fffg, with a 400 grn bullet. This is a bit hot for my gun but I didn't figure it would blow up so I tried it. I also own a H&R Ultra deluxe slug gun which weighs around 11 lbs and is great on recoil. Let me tell you, a muzzle loader with a light bullet (250 is light to me) and 100 grns of powder does not have the recoil of a 3 inch mag slug gun! Maybe if you are shooting one of those little Knight wolverines my buddy has, and then probably still not as bad.

My muzzle loader doesn't even kick as hard as my A-5 auto shooting 2 3/4 inch slugs. Like said, shotguns have a sharper recoil that just feels more harsh.

Not that a ML doesn't kick though, they can buck you pretty good and you need to keep that in mind when mounting your scope.

Paul

Paul L Mohr

Double post, Fing internet keeps dropping out on me[:@]