Remington SPS Tactical VS. 700P LTR

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06-16-2007, 12:45 PM

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Garminator

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RE: Remington SPS Tactical VS. 700P LTR

Brutal, how's the recoil on that LTR? I'm curious ref the 20" barrel.

07-29-2007, 07:40 AM

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RE: Remington SPS Tactical VS. 700P LTR

Was searching for info on this rigle here and found ths thread. From everything that I can tell and have read, I think I am going to go with the sps tactical over any of the higher end rifles. The review they did on snipercentral showed sub .5 MOA on the rifle, and that was with the stock flexing. That is great in my book, and if I get really picky about it, I can always upgrade the stock and still be cheaper than some of the other rifles. As far as the barrel fluting, it would be nice, but not necesary for me. I know it would make it a little more light weight and it would help with cooling the barrel, but I do not think that either of this things would be a huge issue. I jut like how it looks like an m40.

07-29-2007, 08:06 AM

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RE: Remington SPS Tactical VS. 700P LTR

I have no experiance with the SPS, however, I have shot the LTR. It is a really nice performing little gun, that can have a multitude of uses. It makes for a great tactical patrol type rifle, and I have seen it shot out to 800+ meters with some Swat Sniper Instructors I know. It is a little "whippy" to shoot, because of the short barrel, and the lighter weight. It will drive tacks on the range. No doubt, there are some differences in the Rifles, for the Price, besides ust the stock, and bedding. I would just do a litle more research before just deciding on the less expensive model, just to save money. You might end up spending the difference down the road to bring it up to what you are really after.

I also agree with somebody who reccomended the FN Rifles. They have .308 called thePBR.Patrol Bolt RifleI believe. It is their version of the LTR. Anyhow, I got to shoot one right after it came out on 2 seperate occasions. Once through a gun shop that a friend owns, and again out with the Sheriffs Dept Swat team when they got one in for testing. Great shooting rifle. Great trigger. Really worth looking into if you are considering the LTR.

07-29-2007, 01:09 PM

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RE: Remington SPS Tactical VS. 700P LTR

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The hs precisoin stock on the LTR is far better than the Hogue pillar bedded one on the SPS tactical. It would be silly to suggest or state otherwise. What I was wondering is why didnt remington just put the Hogue full length bedding block stock on there insteadof the pillar bedding. And while i was in that thought,I somewhat "chased a rabbit" and made a comment about an article i read recently. The article was basically a comparison between different manufacturers of aftermarket stocks and how all of the ones with full length bedding block's produceddarn nearidentical accuracy numbers. That made me think about howsome individualspercieve Hogue stocks to be less accurate than other big name stocks, but if both have a full length bedding block made of aluminum, and are free floated, then neither one is going to outshine the other one in accuracy. It doesnt matter if the rest of the stock is fiberglass, polycarbonate, rubber, laminate, whatever, if the gun stocks share machined full length bedding blocks(the only point of attachment), thenboth stocks are on an equal playing field and neither one will outshine the other and thats just my OPINION, not fact.I understand fiberglass stocks are great and all, andI prefer the way they feel in my hands, but the only thing that matters as far as accuracy goes with a stock is the manner in which it is bolted to the stock(bedding) and the type of material it is bolted to. Anything else is personal preference and doesnt affect the rifles inherent accuracy. If this is not the case, please somebody tell me because I am here to learn. You can never know enough of anything and facts are of upmost imporance when learning. So if anybody has any facts to prove or disprove a theory, please let us know. I am definately willing to change my mind or opinion on this subject matter if there is reliable evidence to prove something.

I'm inclined to agree with you. However, I'm not an expert. I only listen to what the experts say and if they didn't like the feel of the Hogue be it full length bedded or not, that's good enough for me to steer toward the HS Precision.

In some respects you're paying for a name, but I'm also inclined to believe that you get what you pay for most, but not all of the time.

I personally would rather pay more for a stock that didn't flex around when on a bipod, then risk spending less initally, only to replace the cheaper stock later when you're unhappy with it, thereby spending more than just initially getting the more expensive stock.

Speaking of price: When I bought my LTR it cost me $850. It's my understanding now that the price has increased significantly. I've seen them anywhere between $1075 and $1875.

That mayfurther influenceany decision between an LTR and a SPS Tactical.