25-06
#21
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: fort mcmurray alberta canada
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RE: 25-06
I'm going to disagree with this. The 25-06 shoots as flat orflatter and has nearly as much energy at distances of out to400 and 500 yards. 300 yards is way too close IMO to see any "edge". Not dissing the 270, just saying the 25-06 can do anything on deer and smaller game that the 270 can. I'll give the "edge" to the 270 on elk, but I wouldn't be using a 270 anyways.
#23
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
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RE: 25-06
Sighted at 200, ballistics comparison at 500:
270 130gr BST: 2171 fps, 1361 ft/lbs, 5mph drift: 8.1", drop 36.1"
25-06 110 acc.: 2177fps, 1158 ft/lbs, 5mph drift: 8.3", drop 35.5"
As you can see, not much difference. By the time you get far enough out its not about which gun but whereYOU can put the bullet.
270 130gr BST: 2171 fps, 1361 ft/lbs, 5mph drift: 8.1", drop 36.1"
25-06 110 acc.: 2177fps, 1158 ft/lbs, 5mph drift: 8.3", drop 35.5"
As you can see, not much difference. By the time you get far enough out its not about which gun but whereYOU can put the bullet.
#24
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1,429
RE: 25-06
ORIGINAL: younggun308
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#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pine Hill Alabama USA
Posts: 1,280
RE: 25-06
in my experience, 25-06's can be fairly finicky when it comes to ammo. While this can be true of certain rifles in dang near ANY caliber, it seems to exemplify itself in the 25-06 more often than not.
#26
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hickory NC USA
Posts: 964
RE: 25-06
with what a 90 grain bullet? I would prefer a 130 grain bullet.
Why the 90 gr? just to see how they shoot.I allready have the 87,100's,110,115,117 and 120 shooting tiny groups.After that will work on the 75 gr.Haven't ever seen a 130 gr bullet for the 25/06 .
I am shooting the tikka in 25/06 and it is a great shooter.But with some loads you get a lot of muzzle flash.If I was going to get another one I would probably opt for at least a 24 in barrel,perferably a 26 in barrel.
Thought if someone else was shooting the 90 with certain powder I could compare with.But don't guess anyone is.
Why the 90 gr? just to see how they shoot.I allready have the 87,100's,110,115,117 and 120 shooting tiny groups.After that will work on the 75 gr.Haven't ever seen a 130 gr bullet for the 25/06 .
I am shooting the tikka in 25/06 and it is a great shooter.But with some loads you get a lot of muzzle flash.If I was going to get another one I would probably opt for at least a 24 in barrel,perferably a 26 in barrel.
Thought if someone else was shooting the 90 with certain powder I could compare with.But don't guess anyone is.
#28
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
RE: 25-06
The problem with a 25-06 is that its a long action cartridge that preforms best with a full 24 inch barrel....Most .270s come with a factory 22 inch barrel, a 25-06 will usually have a 24 inch barrel...If you don't mind carrying a longer gun than can be had in .270, and one that has less energy than a .270 then a 25-07 is a good choice...
If you reload, a 25-06 is an excellent choice, but around here, you have to really look for factory loadings and they aren't really that impressive...Out to 3-400 yards, you won't find much difference in ballistics of factory loaded cartridges between a 25-06 and a .270, if you stick with a 130 deer bullet for a .270 and a 115-120 deer bullet in the 25-06....and frankly most hunters will never shoot a deer at 400 yards....
All that being said, if you are talking about shooting a 3-4 boxes of shells a year at coyotes or prairie dogs, a .270 or even a 7mm-08 would make more sense than a 25-06....
If you are talking about shooting more than 3-4 boxes of shells a year at varmits and not hunting anything larger than deer, you might be better served with a .243...Take a look at the Winchester Supreme 55 grain Ballistic tip at 3910fps and the Federal Premium 85gr Sierra HPBT at 3320 fps....the 55 grain would work as a varmit round, while the 85 gr is good for deer and coyotes both....
And that's what's "wrong" with the 25-06....It sits between 2 of the most popular cartridges ever created...the .243 and the .270....Now throw in the 7mm-08 that came out in 1980, and is gaining popularity every year, you can see that there just isn't much market left for the 25-06...
If you reload, a 25-06 is an excellent choice, but around here, you have to really look for factory loadings and they aren't really that impressive...Out to 3-400 yards, you won't find much difference in ballistics of factory loaded cartridges between a 25-06 and a .270, if you stick with a 130 deer bullet for a .270 and a 115-120 deer bullet in the 25-06....and frankly most hunters will never shoot a deer at 400 yards....
All that being said, if you are talking about shooting a 3-4 boxes of shells a year at coyotes or prairie dogs, a .270 or even a 7mm-08 would make more sense than a 25-06....
If you are talking about shooting more than 3-4 boxes of shells a year at varmits and not hunting anything larger than deer, you might be better served with a .243...Take a look at the Winchester Supreme 55 grain Ballistic tip at 3910fps and the Federal Premium 85gr Sierra HPBT at 3320 fps....the 55 grain would work as a varmit round, while the 85 gr is good for deer and coyotes both....
And that's what's "wrong" with the 25-06....It sits between 2 of the most popular cartridges ever created...the .243 and the .270....Now throw in the 7mm-08 that came out in 1980, and is gaining popularity every year, you can see that there just isn't much market left for the 25-06...
#29
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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RE: 25-06
ORIGINAL: nchawkeye
And that's what's "wrong" with the 25-06....It sits between 2 of the most popular cartridges ever created...the .243 and the .270....Now throw in the 7mm-08 that came out in 1980, and is gaining popularity every year, you can see that there just isn't much market left for the 25-06...
And that's what's "wrong" with the 25-06....It sits between 2 of the most popular cartridges ever created...the .243 and the .270....Now throw in the 7mm-08 that came out in 1980, and is gaining popularity every year, you can see that there just isn't much market left for the 25-06...