300 WSM
12-11-2002, 10:26 PM
#2
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: LaGrange Georgia USA
Posts: 48
RE: 300 WSM
Dont think it is strouger than the 300win mag.they let you think it is but its not.but other than that i would love to own one myself.but...i would rather have a 270 wsm.it would be my pick of the w.s.m"s
12-12-2002, 06:06 AM
#3
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: WV USA
Posts: 214
RE: 300 WSM
I recently bought a 300WSM in a winchester model 70 featherweight. So far I am very happy with the rifle I have shot both factory 180 power points and reloads using 165 nosler ballistic tip over 64gr of H4350 with fed 215 primer and both have given good results. As far as doing more than the 300win mag I dont think when both are loaded to max that it can but I do fell that it is as factory loads. I also like the short action with a factor 24"barrel. I would recomend a trigger job the factory trigger on mine was way to heavy so had trigger job done and now its crisp 2.5lb with no creep. So far the gun is giveing 3/4 [handloads]to 1 1/2factory loads] inch groups. And the gun isnt even broken in yet. AS far as the 270wsm I just prefer 30 calibers due to more bullet choices.
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12-12-2002, 12:42 PM
#5
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gypsum KS USA
Posts: 1,289
RE: 300 WSM
I agree, the .300 wsm is no better than the .300 win mag. Some rounds for the WSM are stouter, but most are not, but my biggest problem with it is this, only one or two people make rounds for them, and they only have like 3 different bullet types all together, and they cost over $2 a round, while the .300 win mag will out perform the WSM, cost you less, and give you a thousand more bullet type options, let alone manufacturer options.
Screw the 10 ring, keep them in the zero!!!
Screw the 10 ring, keep them in the zero!!!
12-12-2002, 03:40 PM
#6
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 917
RE: 300 WSM
On paper, the thing looks great. But as frizzellr says, will it be around for very long?
What I like about the possibility of the short magnums is the fact that you can get a rifle with a 25" barrel that is roughly the same overall length as a standard-length magnum rifle with a 24" barrel. Or, more accurately, a 24" barrel that is 1" shorter overall than the same gun chambered for a standard-length magnum cartridge.
If the riflemakers would start building .300 WSMs and SAUMs with 23" barrels, we'd have rifles with the same overall length and weight of .30-06 class guns with performance nearly equalling the .300 Win Mag. Very interesting........ <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Edited by - seattlesetters on 12/12/2002 17:13:22
What I like about the possibility of the short magnums is the fact that you can get a rifle with a 25" barrel that is roughly the same overall length as a standard-length magnum rifle with a 24" barrel. Or, more accurately, a 24" barrel that is 1" shorter overall than the same gun chambered for a standard-length magnum cartridge.
If the riflemakers would start building .300 WSMs and SAUMs with 23" barrels, we'd have rifles with the same overall length and weight of .30-06 class guns with performance nearly equalling the .300 Win Mag. Very interesting........ <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>
Good Dogwork and Good Hunting
Edited by - seattlesetters on 12/12/2002 17:13:22
12-12-2002, 10:32 PM
#8
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Columbia MO USA
Posts: 23
RE: 300 WSM
I bought one last spring and love it. I looked for advice here, and received mixed results. For some reason, it seems to anger a lot of people on this board that the caliber made the headlines last year. When I was asking, many seemed to think the new caliber was an insult to 30.06 owners. Now, the 300 Win Mag proponents are mad.
I think they misread the headlines. They don't say the caliber is better than the others - it just has different features, primarily ballisitic in a short cartridge that are usually associated with longer ammunition. The primary advantage to the 300 WSM is that the ballistics approximate (I didn't say match, much less exceed) a 300 Win Mag, and do it in a shorter action, allowing for a shorter rifle. Downside: they're right that ammo choices are limited and it's expensive. Also, you can't put many of those fat little dudes in the magazine, so if you think you're going to be firing a lot of shots in rapid succession with no time to re-load, the WSM isn't for you. Other than that, I can't see much of a downside. From what I hear at the gun stores, they are so popular, it appears it is here to stay, and the ammo options will increase, and maybe become a little more affordable. I was told on thei board that recoil would be too much. That was flat wrong. Although I wouldn't call it light, it is comparable to a 30.06, and does not bother me in the slightest (and I'm not a very big man). Don't be afraid of it - just don't start your wife or son out with it. If I was sure I would never have shots beyond 300 yards, I would've gone with an 06 (I'm not saying you can't use an 06 beyond 300 yards, but I am saying the 300 WSM is superior beyond that distance). I doubt that I will take many 300 yard plus shots, but I'm not sure, and I want the capability, even if it is unnecessary. Read up on the ballistics, compare the price and availabilty of the ammo in your area, and see if you can find someone who let you shoot theirs. I will not tell you it is better than the other calibers - but I tell you that I like mine, I know it works (dropped a 165 class trophy last month with no problem), and that I'm sure it will work well for whitetail, muledeer, or elk. Good luck!
I think they misread the headlines. They don't say the caliber is better than the others - it just has different features, primarily ballisitic in a short cartridge that are usually associated with longer ammunition. The primary advantage to the 300 WSM is that the ballistics approximate (I didn't say match, much less exceed) a 300 Win Mag, and do it in a shorter action, allowing for a shorter rifle. Downside: they're right that ammo choices are limited and it's expensive. Also, you can't put many of those fat little dudes in the magazine, so if you think you're going to be firing a lot of shots in rapid succession with no time to re-load, the WSM isn't for you. Other than that, I can't see much of a downside. From what I hear at the gun stores, they are so popular, it appears it is here to stay, and the ammo options will increase, and maybe become a little more affordable. I was told on thei board that recoil would be too much. That was flat wrong. Although I wouldn't call it light, it is comparable to a 30.06, and does not bother me in the slightest (and I'm not a very big man). Don't be afraid of it - just don't start your wife or son out with it. If I was sure I would never have shots beyond 300 yards, I would've gone with an 06 (I'm not saying you can't use an 06 beyond 300 yards, but I am saying the 300 WSM is superior beyond that distance). I doubt that I will take many 300 yard plus shots, but I'm not sure, and I want the capability, even if it is unnecessary. Read up on the ballistics, compare the price and availabilty of the ammo in your area, and see if you can find someone who let you shoot theirs. I will not tell you it is better than the other calibers - but I tell you that I like mine, I know it works (dropped a 165 class trophy last month with no problem), and that I'm sure it will work well for whitetail, muledeer, or elk. Good luck!
12-13-2002, 02:44 AM
#10
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: dedham massachusetts USA
Posts: 1,361
RE: 300 WSM
i think the 300WSM is here to stay. they keep on coming out with newer factory loads every year. 2003 is coming out with 180gr. nosler partitions and 180gr. ballistic tips.
i would get one. not because they say it is stronger than a 300win mag. i believe it is not. i look at it as a 308win compared to a 30-06sprg. i just always liked a short action better for the maine woods.
i would get one. not because they say it is stronger than a 300win mag. i believe it is not. i look at it as a 308win compared to a 30-06sprg. i just always liked a short action better for the maine woods.