Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
12-23-2006, 06:49 PM
#21
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
ORIGINAL: Chantecler111
The .338 Win Mag, is a lot better at breaking down larger game, like bears, and moose, than the 30-06, there isn't that much difference between the .338 Win Mag, and .375 H&H, except that the .338 will shoot a heck of a lot flatter. The .300 Win Mag, will also be more effective on game than the 30-06. I'm assuming most people that argue in favor of the 30-06, in the face of the .300 or .338 Win Mag, don't even own a .300 or .338 Win Mag.
ORIGINAL: SwampCollie
If you want a bigger rifle caliber then what you have now, then get a 375 and call it a day. There isn't enough on game (not on paper) difference between a 30/06 and a 300WindBag or 338 WindBag to make it worth the money.
If I were you, I'd buy some good, bonded, or copper solid bullets for that '06, and use the change from that rifle/scope you didn't buy to go shoot a whopperelkin New Mexico.
If you want a bigger rifle caliber then what you have now, then get a 375 and call it a day. There isn't enough on game (not on paper) difference between a 30/06 and a 300WindBag or 338 WindBag to make it worth the money.
If I were you, I'd buy some good, bonded, or copper solid bullets for that '06, and use the change from that rifle/scope you didn't buy to go shoot a whopperelkin New Mexico.
And your arguement that there isn't much difference between a 338 and a 375 is almost as absurd as that stainless steel barrel you saw shining a mile away as you walked down aWMA road during hunting season.
"Breaking down game"??? What the heck is that? The only sort of "break downs" I know about are bluegrass songs and Dodge transmissions. If you use a properly constructed bullet from a sufficient caliber, you won't ever have to break down game, unless of course you shoot them in the can. But if you can't hit a bull in the arse with a bass fiddle, you ought not be afield any how. Just my .02.
"More effective on game"???{300WM v. 30'06} Not hardly. Depends on if you measure effectiveness in pounds of blood soaked vension I guess. Sure, it will shoot flatter, but, as I have learned four times, you will prepare for a 400 yard shot at an elk, only to shoot one in timber inside of 75 yards.
I'm out on this one before it gets too fired up. I'm duck hunting in the morning. I'll leave it to the live in expert who spends all season online to field the arguements.
12-23-2006, 07:22 PM
#22
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
I just got a 325 WSM for an upcoming moose hunt and it shoots great. I havnt took it out to see what it dose to deer sized game but the recoil is managable. Im 5'9" and 150 lbs. and enjoy shooting it. The only problem is finding ammo since it is such a new caliber there is very limited types of ammo for it.
12-23-2006, 07:33 PM
#23
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
Oh I am sure he has all those rifles too. He also has a ruger #1 .458 .375., and .416 rigby. Or maybe he has the calibur scratched in the stock of a .22lr!!!! Every rifle someone ask about he has or has had --- go figure. Yeah I am dogging you, your like a tick I cant reach.
12-23-2006, 07:39 PM
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
ORIGINAL: DANTHEHUNTER
Oh I am sure he has all those rifles too. He also has a ruger #1 .458 .375., and .416 rigby. Or maybe he has the calibur scratched in the stock of a .22lr!!!! Every rifle someone ask about he has or has had --- go figure. Yeah I am dogging you, your like a tick I cant reach.
Oh I am sure he has all those rifles too. He also has a ruger #1 .458 .375., and .416 rigby. Or maybe he has the calibur scratched in the stock of a .22lr!!!! Every rifle someone ask about he has or has had --- go figure. Yeah I am dogging you, your like a tick I cant reach.
12-23-2006, 07:46 PM
#25
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
ORIGINAL: SwampCollie
I own all five ('06, 300WM, 7Mag, 338WM and a 375). If you want to split hairs, I also have a 300 WSM, and a 330 Dakota (which I just re-aquired, luckily).
And your arguement that there isn't much difference between a 338 and a 375 is almost as absurd as that stainless steel barrel you saw shining a mile away as you walked down aWMA road during hunting season.
"Breaking down game"??? What the heck is that? The only sort of "break downs" I know about are bluegrass songs and Dodge transmissions. If you use a properly constructed bullet from a sufficient caliber, you won't ever have to break down game, unless of course you shoot them in the can. But if you can't hit a bull in the arse with a bass fiddle, you ought not be afield any how. Just my .02.
"More effective on game"???{300WM v. 30'06} Not hardly. Depends on if you measure effectiveness in pounds of blood soaked vension I guess. Sure, it will shoot flatter, but, as I have learned four times, you will prepare for a 400 yard shot at an elk, only to shoot one in timber inside of 75 yards.
I'm out on this one before it gets too fired up. I'm duck hunting in the morning. I'll leave it to the live in expert who spends all season online to field the arguements.
ORIGINAL: Chantecler111
The .338 Win Mag, is a lot better at breaking down larger game, like bears, and moose, than the 30-06, there isn't that much difference between the .338 Win Mag, and .375 H&H, except that the .338 will shoot a heck of a lot flatter. The .300 Win Mag, will also be more effective on game than the 30-06. I'm assuming most people that argue in favor of the 30-06, in the face of the .300 or .338 Win Mag, don't even own a .300 or .338 Win Mag.
ORIGINAL: SwampCollie
If you want a bigger rifle caliber then what you have now, then get a 375 and call it a day. There isn't enough on game (not on paper) difference between a 30/06 and a 300WindBag or 338 WindBag to make it worth the money.
If I were you, I'd buy some good, bonded, or copper solid bullets for that '06, and use the change from that rifle/scope you didn't buy to go shoot a whopperelkin New Mexico.
If you want a bigger rifle caliber then what you have now, then get a 375 and call it a day. There isn't enough on game (not on paper) difference between a 30/06 and a 300WindBag or 338 WindBag to make it worth the money.
If I were you, I'd buy some good, bonded, or copper solid bullets for that '06, and use the change from that rifle/scope you didn't buy to go shoot a whopperelkin New Mexico.
And your arguement that there isn't much difference between a 338 and a 375 is almost as absurd as that stainless steel barrel you saw shining a mile away as you walked down aWMA road during hunting season.
"Breaking down game"??? What the heck is that? The only sort of "break downs" I know about are bluegrass songs and Dodge transmissions. If you use a properly constructed bullet from a sufficient caliber, you won't ever have to break down game, unless of course you shoot them in the can. But if you can't hit a bull in the arse with a bass fiddle, you ought not be afield any how. Just my .02.
"More effective on game"???{300WM v. 30'06} Not hardly. Depends on if you measure effectiveness in pounds of blood soaked vension I guess. Sure, it will shoot flatter, but, as I have learned four times, you will prepare for a 400 yard shot at an elk, only to shoot one in timber inside of 75 yards.
I'm out on this one before it gets too fired up. I'm duck hunting in the morning. I'll leave it to the live in expert who spends all season online to field the arguements.
12-23-2006, 07:56 PM
#26
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
ORIGINAL: DANTHEHUNTER
Or maybe he has the calibur scratched in the stock of a .22lr!!!!
Or maybe he has the calibur scratched in the stock of a .22lr!!!!
12-23-2006, 08:14 PM
#27
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
how about a different way of thinking???? Ill throw this into the mix. I do currently own most of the rifles mentioned in this thread so far, and when I am looking for a new rifle I take a different perspective now that I have a nice collection. You say you have a 30-06? I am assuming its a bolt action? If so, how about looking into a 7600 pump say in 35 Whelen? Or how about a Browning BAR in 338 Win mag? Theres also single shots, Encore, Ruger #1 etc. The calibers for those guns are endless too! Then there are lever actions, how about a Marlin in 45-70 or 444. If you want something different than you trusty 06, change the type of gun instead of just getting another bolt action. Just my .02 worth. 
12-23-2006, 10:03 PM
#28
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
Thanks for the info. and opinions. My recent Caribou trip got me thinking about the new gun. My hunting buddy and I were the only ones using the good ole .06 The other 10 hunters in camp were using 270wsm,257Weatherby mag, 7mmstw, 300WM, 7mm mag, 7mm wsm and others I can't recall and hadn't heard of. The conversation alwayscentered around which caliber hit the hardest and had the flattest trajectory. Some of the fellas in camp hadhunted Elk, Antelope and the like out west. The general consensus was that the .06 was marginal on getting the job done. I certainly had no trouble dropping Caribou with the .06 I don't want to show up for the hunt of a lifetime andbe under "gunned" (if that's a word).
12-23-2006, 11:09 PM
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
ORIGINAL: thebillman
Thanks for the info. and opinions. My recent Caribou trip got me thinking about the new gun. My hunting buddy and I were the only ones using the good ole .06 The other 10 hunters in camp were using 270wsm,257Weatherby mag, 7mmstw, 300WM, 7mm mag, 7mm wsm and others I can't recall and hadn't heard of. The conversation alwayscentered around which caliber hit the hardest and had the flattest trajectory. Some of the fellas in camp hadhunted Elk, Antelope and the like out west. The general consensus was that the .06 was marginal on getting the job done. I certainly had no trouble dropping Caribou with the .06 I don't want to show up for the hunt of a lifetime andbe under "gunned" (if that's a word).
Thanks for the info. and opinions. My recent Caribou trip got me thinking about the new gun. My hunting buddy and I were the only ones using the good ole .06 The other 10 hunters in camp were using 270wsm,257Weatherby mag, 7mmstw, 300WM, 7mm mag, 7mm wsm and others I can't recall and hadn't heard of. The conversation alwayscentered around which caliber hit the hardest and had the flattest trajectory. Some of the fellas in camp hadhunted Elk, Antelope and the like out west. The general consensus was that the .06 was marginal on getting the job done. I certainly had no trouble dropping Caribou with the .06 I don't want to show up for the hunt of a lifetime andbe under "gunned" (if that's a word).
12-24-2006, 04:06 AM
#30
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RE: Help me to decide 7mm or 300wm...
Just go for the 700 nitro express.Might wanna by some shock absorbers and make a cool looking recoil pad out of them. I am sure this will make you a better hunter,A one shot kill, You do not want to take another shot after you missed with the first one. This will make you concentrate hitting your target the first time.