Bloodnativ

I am considering purchasing another rifle at the end of the season. Right now I am looking at the .35 Remington or .45-70. I am a big fan of big, heavy, slow moving bullets and the lever guns that these are chambered in (I already have a Winchester 94 in .30-30) and would like another (bigger) caliber. I mainly hunt whitetails, hogs, and maybe black bear. I know some of you have experience with these calibers and I would like to know what you think of each one. Pros and Cons. What's the recoil like? Accuracy? Trajectory? Any info and thoughts would help.

BOWHUNTERCOP

BOTH ARE GOOD, NOT SURE AS WHATS BETTER FOR YOU, ONLY YOU CAN MAKE THAT CHOICE. 45-70 DOES HAVE MORE STOPPING POWER. 35 REMINGTON IS MORE EASILY TO FIND AMMO.

Bloodnativ

Finding ammo is not a problem as I reload. I need info on the performance of each caliber.

BT

here i would go with the 45-70 ammo is as easy if not easer to find as the 35.

i have used both with the 35 i realy could not tell the differne between it and the 30-30.

the 45-70 has inpressed me alot. all game droped quickly. hogs\deer

from what i have been told in the handloading books there are 4 levels of loads for the 45-70.
(1) black powder loads
(2) smokless loads that are equal to bp loads and are safe in all guns in good condision.
(3) loads that are disined for the new podution leaver action.
(4) loads made for modern singshots

the +p loads in factorry ammo comes from garret,bufflo bore,and cor-bon ammo companys
some of the loads use hard cast bullets up to 540gr
they are sutile for any game on the planet. "according to the ammo maker"
Phil spangbir "writer for G@A mag. use them on cape bufflo.

i normaly use the stander load wih 300 and 350 gr hp. i normaly hunt deer and they work fine.
for bear and if i was going on a perpously hog only hunt i would go with the old Rem 405gr load or one of the +p loads close to 500gr.

the reasion i dont normaly use the +p is 2 fold. 1. i normaly hunt deer so the extra punch isent needed.
2 and out of a 5lbs single shot that 510 gr load HURTS.

the 35 may have a little range i know of people pusshing it out to 200yd. i concider 150 max for the 45-70 and all my shots have been under 100yds.

now with that all being said you may wont to compare some other cartages. the 444,45colt +P ,44mag and the new 450 m.
the 450 is bacily nothing but a +P 45-70 with a belt insted of a rim.

the 444 is in the same class as the 45-70 but has a tad avantage in seinal dincity with the same bullet weiht. .429 vs .458

the +P 45colt and 44 are very close espicaly loaded with 300gr bullets
they dont have quite the punch. there bigest avantage is if you wont a rifle handgun combo. and that 44mag ammo is neraly everywhere.

hope this helped
L. O. D. Charter member and L.O.S.

seattlesetters

I don't know if you can find one, but you may be interested in a short run Browning did with the BLR 81 chambered in .358 Win.

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Good Dogwork and Good Hunting

frizzellr

I prefer the 45-70. Like BT said ammo is not that hard to find especially with the resurgence of the cartridge due to the availibility of new 45-70 rifles. Not so with the 35 Rem. Besides, there is something to be said for a big chunk of lead flying through the air. Since you already have a 30-30 Win, the 35 Rem would offer you a slight advantage, but not as much as the 45-70.

Quilly

i like a good ole big chunk of lead myself. but i like the 35rem better. even though the 45-70 has a better selections of bullets and grain sizes. but the 200grain 35rem is a potent littel round and is great out to 150yds. very littel recoil, and puts down deer and black bear hard. have seen it done tons of times up in maine.
if i did not get my 450marlin. i would of went for the 35rem.

eldeguello

If you handload, or use one of the heavy commercial .45/70 loads now available, there really is no comparison at all between the .45/70 and the .35 Rem.!!! The .45/70 is in an entirely different category. Although both are relatively short-range propositions, a heavy .45/70 load is plenty adequate for all North American game and most things in Africa, perhaps except for rhino, elephant and Cape Buffalo!! Some would argue that it is adequate for these too, with the right bullets!!

Keep yore powder dry!!

propmahn

If you can shoot accuratly enough (main problem would be ranging the target) then the 45-70 takes the role alot better, because it has the energy to take animals out to long ranges, but the trajectory must be known

propmahn
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Rodsmith

Have you looked at the 444 or the new 450? I am a big fan of the 35 and it is my go to gun, but I sure like the stats on the 2 mentioned above. Might just be my next purchase after I finish this 35 Whelen/Mauser conversion.

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