soarkrebel

OH ruger redhawk there are some that always have the same arguement ... boo hoo my bolt came open cause i bashed it against a tree!!!! it's the guns fault not mine! it won't group ! maybe its the operator!
and yes my remingtons are VERY dangerous!!! don't mess with them they will get you!!!
I have a safe full of remingtons and all shoot VERY well! i will put some deer in a ice chest this weekend with one of them i just can't decide which one?
Yes i will agree i don't like the new klintoon key and i have heard of finish problems with floorplates.
I personally would rather find an older remington 700 in decent condition. barrels are abundant and after market stuff abounds. you can build one however you want. thats me of course.
if not remington i would do ruger. they make a fine rifle but again i would rather have an older one M77 not mkII.
Yeah remingtons are higher priced i don't like that but i have dealt with customer service before (not because the guns didnt shoot good )and got good treatment. they sent me a new stock for my sendero cause that HS precision stock just chipped when i took the gun apart to clean. not remingtons fault. and SN# didnt match on a model seven for the bolt and reciever. i called and the lady was extremely nice and said please send it back and i did. they determined they had made a mistake in the numbering and corrected the problem. it happens ! to all guns period!!! i have sent brownings, winchesters, savages,rugers,weatherbys(oh god i wouldnt have one!),marlins and a bunch of taurus's back to the factory.
Oh and i love the arguement so many make about the 742 jamming . let's see i am 38 and got the 742 when i was 15 . 23 years! wow i shot it the other day 15 times and not one jam .But then again i must consider that the gun has been meticuliously maintained! ( i have seen many folks guns while working in the gun shop, whewwww it's amazing some don't blow up!) i realize that sometimes mechanical things have problems but i also know that alot of times it's operator error!

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Briman

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The gun isn't dangerous, its the people using the gun. I've used a rem 700 for nearly 20 years and never had it go off while reloading it. Sufice to say that I never thought its a good idea to point the gun at other people while unloading it either. If a person cannot take the care to watch where they are pointing their firearm or have the awareness of whether or not the safety is on or off, they should take up a different sport like golf. BTW there are ALOT of older winchester 94's out there that don't have the crossbolt safety. These rifles are far more dangereous in the hands of the inexperienced than a rem 700 will ever be.

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oldelkhunter

Briman, if they aren't dangerous then why was there a lawsuit settled out of court and the recall on the trigger...Look I will say no more than this on the subject...If people insist on walking around with cartridges in the chamber when carrying one of these so be it. Hopefully you won't be swinging it around and as far as walking thru brush hope the bolt doesn't unlock and open up . I prefer a rifle that locks the bolt as a bare minimum, I am down to one 700 in my safe and i am thinking of either getting rid of it or converting it to a winchester wing safety.

3DNWV

losthwy I just bought a NEW 70 feather weight with 11lb trigger this is not my idea of a good trigger and as for adjustment it MUST be done by a gunsmith for safty and reliablity.
As to the the 1st question ask I own ruger 77's remington 700's and winchester model 70's for the money Id go ith a Ruger in 30-06 I prefer this because if you do go after elk youll have a little more gun and with the 30-06 you have a very wide range of bullet choices.. but another choice Id look hard at is the Savage kit guns there accurate and A very good value they just need alittle trigger work like most new rifles these days.JMO as for scope the Leupold varx 1 is a very good scope for the price and has a life time warrenty

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soarkrebel

Oldelkhunter they only recalled a small number of the 700's not all! you know i saw the cbs special report on the 700. i still would bet the one lady that killed her son pulled the trigger!!!!!i would bet most were operator stupidity! no all!
your last 700 what is it ,details and how much?
All gun manufacturers have been sued so all guns are dangerous!
briman your right 94's are very dangerous. i have a trapper 94. it would be perfect for my 12 y/o to use. but i won't let him cause it has no crossbolt safety and letting the hammer the hammer could be dangerous. he uses a 700 youth in 243. dangerous gun! he has killed two poor deer with it that just happened to be standing in sights. he's going to carry it around saturday ,poor deer!and i even worked on the trigger ,crisp and smooth!

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oldelkhunter

Where have you been Soark figured If I put enough nasty things about remingtons here that you would respond sooner or later. Actually the only one I have left is a Classic in 300 win mag and it was made in 1995 all my others were brought from 1971-1995 or so. I have not bought any new ones because I really hate that plastic security key in the bolt head.

SMITTY03

aside from all of the pouting back and forth with people defending their favorite brands i will get back to your question. i personally have shot all of the brands that you listed, and i bought the ruger m77 .270. i also shoot deer and hogs. i have a 3x9 scope and at 1 inch high at 100 yards, it is dead on at 200. good choice.

RYAN SMITH

Ruger-Redhawk

Soarkrebel, I knew this Remington talk would get your feathers ruffled up a tad.I agree the older Remington's are a better made rifle then the newer ones.Let's face it in all makes and models there are going to be good and bad ones.I've had Ruger's that had problems. Ruger corrected them but it still left the factory with these defects.One was a Super Redhawk that the cut outs for the scope rings weren't cut correctly.Ruger agreed there was a problem and replaced the gun after sending it back twice to them... I've had other guns of different makes with defects.Another example was a Ithaca Model 37.The receiver was defective (crooked) and the shotgun would shoot way off to the right..Ithaca replaced the entire gun.The odds are pretty good that you'll get a decent gun but sooner or later one made by Sunkist will slip through..Ruger Redhawk

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soarkrebel

Oldelkhunter i had a great afternoon . me and my son were shooting off my deck . living in the boonies you can do that. i shot enough i guess the locals couldnt take it so they break out theres and buddy it sounded like a war out here in redneck country. i had been shooting my 308 ,270 and my boys 243. folks go to shooting so i break out the 25 -06 . then for a finale i get the 7 mm stw w/ muzzle break out . now i love that you can feel the wind move!!!!!!!
I am ready for saturday now i just have to figure out what i am hunting with first. i only shot a few i have a few more to try out in the morning.
You get ready to sell that classic let me know. i would love to have one in 300 win mag. and just reading your previous posts i am pretty sure it looks new.got the box?
And the integrated security system is why i won't buy a new one. if and a big IF i did i would change the bolt shroud to remove it. i am not fond of the painted floorplates . you know i was shooting my 270 ,it's a bdl . i have had it 10 years and i bought it used but looked new. it was probably 5 years old then . it is just built better . the blueing looks new and it has been hunted with in all types of weather.
now i would really like a good ruger m77 in 30 -06 . tang safety. my buddys still has one at his pawn shop i have tried to get it off of him for a while but he won't get where i want to pay. nobody wants a 30 -06 . why? it's a great whitetail caliber. after the hunting season i am going to hit him up again.
RUGER have you ever worked on a taurus. a lady bought one and a few weeks after she bought it she returned. the cylinder would not lock up. it was a 85. so i looked at it and the owner said send it to taurus. i asked if i could mess with it and they said yes . i finally figured it out . the cylinder yoke when removed has a spring . that spring puts tension on the cylinder lock to secure the cylinder for firing. stretch the weak little spring and fixed. cheap!
i also messed with a 357 i don't remember the model that would not fire pmc ammo. the thing would shoot umc but not pmc. the only thing i could guess was the pmc's had harder primers and the taurus could not put enough ump to set them off. the guy ended up ordering a smith and wesson. and boy have they changed ! i was and am a old smith guy. all the new ones i ever bought were clean and looked good when you opened them. the one we got was dirty and look like crap . and the price ! no way. i guess i am a ruger man now!!! handguns that is!!!!!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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