Bill of sale
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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RE: Bill of sale
cb I don't guess that I have ever heard of it done and it certainly isn't required. BUT in todays crazy world I can't say that it is a bad idea. I suppose in theory if someone wanted to cause alot of trouble just because they were bored they could sell you a firearm and then claim it was stolen and without a paper trail you would be hard pressed to prove otherwise. So for that reason alone when dealing with andindividual firearm transaction I would say it probably is a good idea. And if you wanted to get extra assurety I would go as far as putting both yours and the sellers thumbprint on the BOS as well.
Good idea,
RA
Good idea,
RA
#3
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: So. Illinois
Posts: 92
RE: Bill of sale
ALWAYS.....
Why not protect yourself and the other guy by writing a simple bill of sale. All it has to have is the make/model/serial number of the gun, a description of any flaws the gun might have and a statement that the deal is for X amount of money and the gun is being sold AS IS or whatever you want it to. Make two copies and you each can signand date both and each have a copy. If you're selling and the guy suddenly has buyer's remorse it keeps him from claiming the gun had some unknown defect and if you're buying it serves as your receipt that you acquired the gun legally (and unknowingly if it is a stolen gun). Who knows how the other guy got it? Unless it is a close friend, it'sALWAYS worth the extra trouble.JMHO.
Why not protect yourself and the other guy by writing a simple bill of sale. All it has to have is the make/model/serial number of the gun, a description of any flaws the gun might have and a statement that the deal is for X amount of money and the gun is being sold AS IS or whatever you want it to. Make two copies and you each can signand date both and each have a copy. If you're selling and the guy suddenly has buyer's remorse it keeps him from claiming the gun had some unknown defect and if you're buying it serves as your receipt that you acquired the gun legally (and unknowingly if it is a stolen gun). Who knows how the other guy got it? Unless it is a close friend, it'sALWAYS worth the extra trouble.JMHO.
#5
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bar Harbor ME USA
Posts: 443
RE: Bill of sale
another good reason ..... I once bought a used Taurus 92 9mm it wouldn't shoot a group into a sheet of plywood never mind a one and a half inch group so I traded it off to a dealer. Later in that guns life it was used in a crime and left behind .... I know this because the paper trail led BATF to me asking some questions like did I own this gun and the answer was yes but I traded it to xyz on this date for ??? they were happy I had the records and they went further down the paper trail.
#6
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY METRO AREA
Posts: 294
RE: Bill of sale
I would also get a photocopy of the other guys driver's liense if possible and include a small statement to the effect that " I john(purchaser) doe am a citizen of the Unites States and have never been convicted of afelony or act of domestic violence andI amnot legally barredfrom owning or purchasing a firearm."
Don't know the specifics but i would think that if you sell to acriminal who is simpy trying to void a nics check there may be a problem and something like this may at least put you in the clear and leave the blame on the criminal where it belongs. Check with a lawyer or your local police for details.
Don't know the specifics but i would think that if you sell to acriminal who is simpy trying to void a nics check there may be a problem and something like this may at least put you in the clear and leave the blame on the criminal where it belongs. Check with a lawyer or your local police for details.
#7
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: So. Illinois
Posts: 92
RE: Bill of sale
Here in the People's Republic of Illinois, or as I like to call it "Red Illinois" we have what are known as Firearm Owner's Identification Cards (FOID). As big of a pain as they are,(might as well begun registration) they do provide a measure of confidence for private gun transactions. As long as the other guy has a current FOID, you can be reasonably sure that he is legally capable of owning a firearm.
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