1100 or 1187
#1
1100 or 1187
What is the difference between the Remingotn 1100 and 1187 models?
And in each one, which do you recommand for upland games? I have had an 870 Wingmaster which has performed well over the years, but thinking of changing to a semi just for a change. Was looking at the Remington site but couldnt figure out the difference.
And in each one, which do you recommand for upland games? I have had an 870 Wingmaster which has performed well over the years, but thinking of changing to a semi just for a change. Was looking at the Remington site but couldnt figure out the difference.
#2
RE: 1100 or 1187
I have owned both.The 1100 is gas operated,and the 11-87 has a "self cleaning" pressure compensating system.Basically they both operate from gas,but the 11-87 has a more advanced way of doing it,so it can shoot heavy loads,and light loads without changing anything.Back in the old days 1100's were sold chambered as 2 3/4" or 3" mag,which was used for 3" shells,and high brass 2 3/4" shells,it didn't work well with lighter loads.So they designed the cycling system in the 11-87 so that it could handle heavy or light loads with no changes.
1100 comes chambered in 2 3/4" now as far as I know.The 11-87 will shoot 2 3/4",and 3",andthe 11-87 super mag will take 2 3/4"...3"..or 3 1/2" shells.Either one would be fine upland,but I like my 11-87 more.If you only plan on shooting clays,birds,and 2 3/4" shellsgo with the 1100,but if you want to shoot turkeys,clays,geese,deer,anything that flies or runs from tree to tree,and larger shells.I'd go with the 11-87.It's pretty much an all around gun.
1100 comes chambered in 2 3/4" now as far as I know.The 11-87 will shoot 2 3/4",and 3",andthe 11-87 super mag will take 2 3/4"...3"..or 3 1/2" shells.Either one would be fine upland,but I like my 11-87 more.If you only plan on shooting clays,birds,and 2 3/4" shellsgo with the 1100,but if you want to shoot turkeys,clays,geese,deer,anything that flies or runs from tree to tree,and larger shells.I'd go with the 11-87.It's pretty much an all around gun.
#3
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 34
RE: 1100 or 1187
Upland Bird hunters are split on the 1100 vs 11-87. There are alot of 1100's out there, some very nice ones at a very reasonable price. What it comes down to is Steel shot. If your area requires steel shot, you would be better served with an 11-87.
With Clay Target Shooters, the 1100's are very popular. I think this has to do with the easy availablity of spare parts, custom stocks, barrels and etc. I am told that the current production 1100 has alot of 11-87 parts in it. I look at current production 1100's as 11-87 Shorts because they are only chamber for 2 3/4" shells.
I have a mid 70's Mod 1100 Trap and it is a nice shooter - low recoil - never missed a beat.
D-squared.
With Clay Target Shooters, the 1100's are very popular. I think this has to do with the easy availablity of spare parts, custom stocks, barrels and etc. I am told that the current production 1100 has alot of 11-87 parts in it. I look at current production 1100's as 11-87 Shorts because they are only chamber for 2 3/4" shells.
I have a mid 70's Mod 1100 Trap and it is a nice shooter - low recoil - never missed a beat.
D-squared.
#5
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Central MA
Posts: 207
RE: 1100 or 1187
If it fits your situation, I would get an old 1100. I have tried an 1187 originally bought for turkeys on birds. I used it on birds because it was like shooting a very strong air gun with no projectile. It would flip turkeys over but then they would take off. I tried it bird hunting, I would have had a bird dead to rights with any other gun but with this gun the bird just kept flying.
The only 1187 I have seen shoot well was my dads 1187 SPS slug gun.Even at that,hands down I would go with an 1100. Shot well with an 1100, couldn't hit the ground with the 1187 if i tried. Maybe its just adefected gun, but I doubt it.
The only 1187 I have seen shoot well was my dads 1187 SPS slug gun.Even at that,hands down I would go with an 1100. Shot well with an 1100, couldn't hit the ground with the 1187 if i tried. Maybe its just adefected gun, but I doubt it.
#6
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bennettsville, SC
Posts: 542
RE: 1100 or 1187
I bought a 11-87 Premier the first or second year the 11-87 was made (i think).
It has been a great gun. Very light. Low recoil even with buck shot and turkey loads. It patterns good too. I've never done much testing with it for turkeys b/c its shiny and I use my BPS 3.5'' for turkeys. But I do have a factory turkey choke for it and it does very well. I let one of my buddies use it and he killed a turkey at about 35 yards.
When I get some spare money I will probably try some different chokes with it and get it ready for the turkey woods, but this coming SPring will belong to my 10ga.
I would recommend this gun to anyone. It may not be as "fancy" as some of the auto's, but it gets the job done.
It has been a great gun. Very light. Low recoil even with buck shot and turkey loads. It patterns good too. I've never done much testing with it for turkeys b/c its shiny and I use my BPS 3.5'' for turkeys. But I do have a factory turkey choke for it and it does very well. I let one of my buddies use it and he killed a turkey at about 35 yards.
When I get some spare money I will probably try some different chokes with it and get it ready for the turkey woods, but this coming SPring will belong to my 10ga.
I would recommend this gun to anyone. It may not be as "fancy" as some of the auto's, but it gets the job done.
#7
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bennettsville, SC
Posts: 542
RE: 1100 or 1187
ORIGINAL: djgj200
If it fits your situation, I would get an old 1100. I have tried an 1187 originally bought for turkeys on birds. I used it on birds because it was like shooting a very strong air gun with no projectile. It would flip turkeys over but then they would take off. I tried it bird hunting, I would have had a bird dead to rights with any other gun but with this gun the bird just kept flying.
The only 1187 I have seen shoot well was my dads 1187 SPS slug gun.Even at that,hands down I would go with an 1100. Shot well with an 1100, couldn't hit the ground with the 1187 if i tried. Maybe its just adefected gun, but I doubt it.
If it fits your situation, I would get an old 1100. I have tried an 1187 originally bought for turkeys on birds. I used it on birds because it was like shooting a very strong air gun with no projectile. It would flip turkeys over but then they would take off. I tried it bird hunting, I would have had a bird dead to rights with any other gun but with this gun the bird just kept flying.
The only 1187 I have seen shoot well was my dads 1187 SPS slug gun.Even at that,hands down I would go with an 1100. Shot well with an 1100, couldn't hit the ground with the 1187 if i tried. Maybe its just adefected gun, but I doubt it.
#8
Spike
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 20
like said before they are both very good guns i have an 1187 nd my dad has an 1100 they are mild recoiled and are both very nice, but i think i would go with the 1187 because it has more options on hunting but i would pick the 1100 for skeet
#9
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In a big house
Posts: 128
I have had both. My first 1100 was over 25 years ago, my last 11-87 was an SP model. If the ammunition that is available today, was available then, I would have never owned the 11-87. I spend more time with clays than anything. Plenty of 2 3/4" "magnum" loads available to cover any need for a hotter poke. I've given up 3" magnum shells, no real need except high ducks. Kent took care of that with Fasteel. Now with the newer heavy metal shells, I don't see a need at all.
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#10
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Posts: 1,408
I've used both and like both, but not the cycling issues with the 1100 with light loads. I currently have an 11-87. It is not "self-cleaning", I get plenty of carbon out of the gas action after a long trap session.
For a multi barrel gun I'd still do the 11-87. For upland birds only, I might save up a bit longer and get one of the new inertia Benelli's and be done with the cleaning job.
For a multi barrel gun I'd still do the 11-87. For upland birds only, I might save up a bit longer and get one of the new inertia Benelli's and be done with the cleaning job.