POI changed?
09-11-2005, 07:57 PM
#13
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RE: POI changed?
Vapor, last tasco I got was when I was a kid, it was junk. But not the top of the line. Probably bottom of the line, think it was a pronghorn or something simpler. I went to Bass Pro and looked at some world class's and they didn't hold a candle to a conquest. Didn't pass any of my tests.
American rifleman has a nifty resolution chart in there last issue. hang that bad boy up across a store and set your top of the line tasco on the same power as a VXIII or Conquest and look at the target, then find a dark hole, shelfs work great for this. see if you can read something in it with all scopes. What you are looking for is a strong contrast, like looking in a cave on a bright day. This will tell you some light characteristics. Also look at few different of the same brand. Some will be better than others. Most stores frown on this. But its all about yield.
American rifleman has a nifty resolution chart in there last issue. hang that bad boy up across a store and set your top of the line tasco on the same power as a VXIII or Conquest and look at the target, then find a dark hole, shelfs work great for this. see if you can read something in it with all scopes. What you are looking for is a strong contrast, like looking in a cave on a bright day. This will tell you some light characteristics. Also look at few different of the same brand. Some will be better than others. Most stores frown on this. But its all about yield.
09-11-2005, 11:33 PM
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Location: Bennettsville, SC
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RE: POI changed?
Everyone seems to be ignoring this statement made in the original post.
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The scope hasn't moved b/c I also shot a few regular 130gr. Power Points that I keep with me for yotes. These still hit in the same place as they did last year. [/blockquote]
If the poi has not changed at all for one load,the difference has to be the other load.Bedding or scope problems would effect both loads.
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The scope hasn't moved b/c I also shot a few regular 130gr. Power Points that I keep with me for yotes. These still hit in the same place as they did last year. [/blockquote]
If the poi has not changed at all for one load,the difference has to be the other load.Bedding or scope problems would effect both loads.
Thank you for that point! Like I said, I have about a half of box of 130gr PP's left from last year that I bought just foryotes. They hit in the same place as last year. Its just the accubonds that have changed. And again the bullets are grouple extremly well, just the POI is a little off. I bought the bullets a year a part and from two different stores. Thanks for the info.the lot # thing, i knew nothing about. Those bullets are $25.00/box so it kinda hard to buy stock these days.[:@]
Vapor, last tasco I got was when I was a kid, it was junk. But not the top of the line. Probably bottom of the line, think it was a pronghorn or something simpler. I went to Bass Pro and looked at some world class's and they didn't hold a candle to a conquest. Didn't pass any of my tests.
American rifleman has a nifty resolution chart in there last issue. hang that bad boy up across a store and set your top of the line tasco on the same power as a VXIII or Conquest and look at the target, then find a dark hole, shelfs work great for this. see if you can read something in it with all scopes. What you are looking for is a strong contrast, like looking in a cave on a bright day. This will tell you some light characteristics. Also look at few different of the same brand. Some will be better than others. Most stores frown on this. But its all about yield.
American rifleman has a nifty resolution chart in there last issue. hang that bad boy up across a store and set your top of the line tasco on the same power as a VXIII or Conquest and look at the target, then find a dark hole, shelfs work great for this. see if you can read something in it with all scopes. What you are looking for is a strong contrast, like looking in a cave on a bright day. This will tell you some light characteristics. Also look at few different of the same brand. Some will be better than others. Most stores frown on this. But its all about yield.
By the time your post got read, It got how many responses that had nothing to do with my question?
Oh yeah, I also did that little test with my scope and I didn't have any problems. Thanks again.
09-11-2005, 11:37 PM
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RE: POI changed?
A new state law here outlaws the shooting of deer with blue eyes. We can only shoot deer with brown eyes.
I can see that I'll have to upgrade my Tascos to something better because currently I'can't always tell what color their eyes are. Some of the mule deer here are shot running at long distances and seeing the color of their eyes is something my Tascos just can't handle. I can tell nicely at a standing deer at about 250 yards but beyond that things do get blurry and the old Tasco scopes aren't that clear.
Guess I must finally admit that they're not as good as a Leupold.
I can see that I'll have to upgrade my Tascos to something better because currently I'can't always tell what color their eyes are. Some of the mule deer here are shot running at long distances and seeing the color of their eyes is something my Tascos just can't handle. I can tell nicely at a standing deer at about 250 yards but beyond that things do get blurry and the old Tasco scopes aren't that clear.
Guess I must finally admit that they're not as good as a Leupold.
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09-12-2005, 11:32 AM
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RE: POI changed?
getting back to the change in POI.....
it takes so very little to change POI 1" at 100 yards...that's a very small increment for that distance.
A very small change of stress of the stock due to humidity change, a small change of tension in the scope mounting system, a difference of thermal expansion of only a few degrees, a very slight bump against the closet door.
The point is that there's an unlimited things that can cause it and it's not at all unusual.
it takes so very little to change POI 1" at 100 yards...that's a very small increment for that distance.
A very small change of stress of the stock due to humidity change, a small change of tension in the scope mounting system, a difference of thermal expansion of only a few degrees, a very slight bump against the closet door.
The point is that there's an unlimited things that can cause it and it's not at all unusual.
09-12-2005, 12:20 PM
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RE: POI changed?
ORIGINAL: Vapodog
A new state law here outlaws the shooting of deer with blue eyes. We can only shoot deer with brown eyes.
I can see that I'll have to upgrade my Tascos to something better because currently I'can't always tell what color their eyes are. Some of the mule deer here are shot running at long distances and seeing the color of their eyes is something my Tascos just can't handle. I can tell nicely at a standing deer at about 250 yards but beyond that things do get blurry and the old Tasco scopes aren't that clear.
Guess I must finally admit that they're not as good as a Leupold.
A new state law here outlaws the shooting of deer with blue eyes. We can only shoot deer with brown eyes.
I can see that I'll have to upgrade my Tascos to something better because currently I'can't always tell what color their eyes are. Some of the mule deer here are shot running at long distances and seeing the color of their eyes is something my Tascos just can't handle. I can tell nicely at a standing deer at about 250 yards but beyond that things do get blurry and the old Tasco scopes aren't that clear.
Guess I must finally admit that they're not as good as a Leupold.
09-12-2005, 12:46 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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RE: POI changed?
i would also agree with sniper and stubbleon this one. every brand of shells can hit in a differant place and even a differant lot number can make a big differant. many guys are happy to shoot two inch groups from box to box. butif youwant the tightest group your gun can shoot then stick with the same lot number until they are sold out. then youshouldresight with the next lot number to keep it shooting astight as possible.