accuracy of centerfire rifles.....be honest now
08-26-2005, 05:04 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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accuracy of centerfire rifles.....be honest now
Craig Boddington is recently on record saying that today's rifle manufacturers need to raise the bar on accuracy..... That (get this) MOA IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE FOR A PRODUCTION RIFLE.
How many of you believe that today's production rifles are MOA shooters out of the box?????
How many of you believe that today's production rifles are MOA shooters out of the box?????
08-26-2005, 05:26 PM
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RE: accuracy of centerfire rifles.....be honest now
The vast majorityof the rem 700's,sako's,tikkas,a-bolts and howasthat I have fired were honest MOA shooters with proper handloads.Some model 70's were as well as some ruger 77s and some mark Vs.When semi autos,pumps and levers are included,mostdid notdo MOA.
08-26-2005, 05:29 PM
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RE: accuracy of centerfire rifles.....be honest now
When semi autos,pumps and levers are included,most did not do MOA.
08-26-2005, 06:45 PM
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RE: accuracy of centerfire rifles.....be honest now
It's been said before, but I think there are a wholelot more MOA rifles out there than there are MOA shooters.
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08-26-2005, 07:22 PM
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RE: accuracy of centerfire rifles.....be honest now
Well at the risk of getting bashed heavily I will say with the right factory load and me on a good day...all of my 700's and even my Vanguard will shoot moa or less. Not everytime..but when im on they will do it. My 700's have build dates from 83-04 and the Vanguard is from early 80's. It was a pleasant surprise after getting the bolt assembly fixed on it.
I agree with cma..if they wont do moa or close....its time to send em on down the road. Probably splitting hairs for hunting accuracy...but if ya gonna pay the money you better get what will make ya happy...if not happy send it on and try again..cause somebody will almost always be happy to give you your money back on a used or new gun.
I agree with cma..if they wont do moa or close....its time to send em on down the road. Probably splitting hairs for hunting accuracy...but if ya gonna pay the money you better get what will make ya happy...if not happy send it on and try again..cause somebody will almost always be happy to give you your money back on a used or new gun.
08-26-2005, 07:42 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: accuracy of centerfire rifles.....be honest now
I see a good percentage of .223, 22-250 etc shooting MOA without modifications but not many at all in big game cartridges. It may be the flinch and not gun, but it seems the bigger the cartridge the worst the accuracy from a factory gun.
I lean toward the gun because a close friend bought a Model 700 in 300 RUM that shot 4 " out of the box with 2 different premium ammos. He sent it back to Remington and they returned it after trying to improve it. With groups now running 2.5 to 3.5 inches. He took the gun to a local gunsmith had the action blueprinted new Krieger barrel stock bedding etc. Alot of money later he now shoots 3/4 inch groups with the same factoryammo.
I lean toward the gun because a close friend bought a Model 700 in 300 RUM that shot 4 " out of the box with 2 different premium ammos. He sent it back to Remington and they returned it after trying to improve it. With groups now running 2.5 to 3.5 inches. He took the gun to a local gunsmith had the action blueprinted new Krieger barrel stock bedding etc. Alot of money later he now shoots 3/4 inch groups with the same factoryammo.
08-26-2005, 08:01 PM
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RE: accuracy of centerfire rifles.....be honest now
Small bores vibe the barrell less; I think it helps to weigh larger bullets for handloading. I am also not nearly the rock steady, eagle eye shooter that I was 30 years ago. Creak creak.