Paul L Mohr

Sorry I wasnt aware that they come with both peices so you can use it with or without. Were they always that way? I don't think my buddies has a compensator on it all, either one of them. I thought you could get it either way.

I still like the idea of it, and it's even better if you can choose between the two to see how it really works.

Paul

Roskoe

I have designed, fabricated, and installed muzzle brakes for about 25 years. I generally don't use or recommend them personally for all the hearing loss reasons stated throughout this thread. In the past couple of years, however, I have discovered what seems to be a "free lunch" alternative. The Benchmaster and Caldwell Lead Sled shooting rests allow the shooter to fire very heavy calibers without the "ouch" factor - and I never feel the recoil when firing at game under field conditions. Buy one, and use it for all your guns.

jcchartboy

Paul that is not entirely correct. When Browning created the BOSS it alwalys had an integral muzzlebrake. Therefore, as it was originally designed it was synonymous with owning a muzzlebreak and recoil reduction.
Now however browning has created a non ported option (CR) as a result of all the complaints mentioned above.


From the browning website.......
"The BOSS-CR accessory offers all the accuracy advantages of the original BOSS device without the muzzle brake feature."

stubblejumper

That is 100% incorrect.Once the bullet leaves the actual barrel and enters the CR attachment,the expanding gasesare released topass around the bulletand no longerprovide a driving force onthe bullet.If you look at a CR attachment you will better understand this since the inside diameter of the CR is larger than that of the bullet or the barrel.

jcchartboy

Excellent point Roskoe. I would also add the Tite Group Series of benchrests to that group. The rests are about 13lbs..

http://www.titegroup.com/

tocs

Nothing is perfect.The attachment at the end of the barrel is ugly and you do have to take the time to dial in the cr attachment.As an example I shoot 130 grain Barnes X's out of my .270,several years ago I spent probably three hours dialing that bullet in.I havn't moved the settings since and I continue to use that same bullet.Fortunately 130 grain corelokt's shoot virtually identically as the Barnes X's,so if I want to practice I am doing it at $12 a box versus $27 a box.
What has been mentioned here about the durability of the attachment concerns me.I always check mine to make sure it is snug and hasn't moved and I have never had a problem with it.My sense is with the attachment after the purchase you are a trigger job or replacement away from all the additional expense that that gun is likely going to need in terms of accuracy improvement.If I hand loaded it would be a different story.I have a Remington LSS mountain rifle in 30-06 that I have over $500 in accurizing gunsmithing inthat shoots great but not near as accurate as the Browning with not nearly as much money invested in the gun.
I purchased a tikka t-3 appx. two years ago in .243,I was influenced by all the gun writers who thought so highly of it.I went to the range with 5 boxes of different ammunition.One cheap box to get it close and 4 boxes of premium ammunition at $18 to $22 a box to see which load it liked.Trigger at 3.5 lbs great gun rest where my influence was minimal.This was a rifle that was "guaranteed "to shoot 1 inch groups out of the box.In fairness to tika I may have gottten a lemon.The best group I could get out of the gun was 1.5 inches with Scirrocco's.An inch and a half isn't awful but for a .243 it is not acceptable,I sold the gun.
For me the Boss/Cr alternative is a good one, beyond the original cost of the gun and a trigger job you should be able to achieve excellant accuracy without any additional expense!
I don't have many guns but what I have I want to perform.For most of the hard core people out there my stable is a small one (Mossberg 835 for Turkey's,T/C ENCORE .50 Caliber Muzzleloader,Browning A-Bolt .270,Remington Lss mountain rifle in 30-06,and a Remington 541 .22)I don't think there is anything I will ever hunt that one of the above wont take care of.
A Kimber .270 WSM has been calling out my name for some time now though!!!

stubblejumper

My own boss equipped rifle was accurate,but no more accurate than my non equipped boss rifles with proper handloads.As for the tikka t-3,I have helped develop loads for two of them and both would average right around 3/4" with their favorite loads.

ColoradoElk

Hi Everyone:

This post has some great information, and I thought I would add the following:

1) Browning, et al, does not sell the BOSS with a real shoulder thumper.When they start selling them at .416 Rem+, recoil reduction becomes important. If you need recoil reduction with a .270, I'd suggest the rifle is poorly fitted.

2) The BOSS WILL COME LOOSE. 20 rounds a year won't do it, but if you shoottwo or three thousand rounds a year, buy extra bushings.

3) The CR and muzzle brake DO NOT have the same POI, but have the same adjustablility.

4) My .300 win mag shoots at .30-06 velocities, which is consistent with what you would expect with a 2" shorter barrel, about 300 fps slower. The shorter barrel counts ALOT to the reduced recoil. That isn't in the catalog though...

5) The video/brochure about "dialing in" is terrible. For the .300 Win, they list sweet spots for a few factory rounds, but NOTHING for more that 50% of the available bullet weights. Where do you start???

6) Someone said they were interested in the .300, it is still available...

CE

Roskoe

Are you saying the shorter barrel has less recoil?

stubblejumper

If you use one of the recoil calculator formulas,velocity is one of the variables.If you reduce velocity,you supposedly reduce recoil.Therefore since the shorter barrel reduces velocity,it should also reduce recoil.